Was it really that bad?

[SC Official]

I didn’t watch the entire game but did see Mulkey’s histrionics (on the court multiple times??) and Angel Reese’s clear taunting actions (too small, pointing at her ring finger while staring at Clark), both of which the crew did nothing about. Yet they got Iowa for a DOG and subsequent T on a technicality that probably doesn’t meet the spirit and intent of the rule.

Iowa coach definitely has a legitimate gripe on these plays.

I haven’t heard anyone in officiating or non-officiating spheres come close to suggesting that the officiating was at an acceptable level, much less in the biggest game in WBB history.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I talked to several women’s officials and they mentioned handchecks are called very tightly at the D1 level, and also very inconsistently.

If that’s true, that’s a shame. Multiple soft calls that you won’t see in NCAA-M, NBA, or the W.

Well then I blame the coaches, as they’re the ones who are giving that directive to the national coordinator. Maybe there will be some philosophical changes now given the outrage?

I’ve noticed in NCAA-W that they don’t talk players out of cheap handchecks or post fouls, something that is quite common and generally accepted in the men’s game (just look at Jeff Anderson).

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I talked to several women’s officials and they mentioned handchecks are called very tightly at the D1 level, and also very inconsistently.

If that’s true, that’s a shame. Multiple soft calls that you won’t see in NCAA-M, NBA, or the W.

Women's basketball loves to tell everyone how pure they are in their application of certain rules. So I am pretty sure I have seen similar calls made at that level before that you can question would be called at other levels.

I say this pretty clearly, adjust. There is no reason to put your hand on ball handlers unless you want to make the official decide of that is a foul.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There is no reason to put your hand on ball handlers unless you want to make the official decide of that is a foul.

Words of wisdom.

[Multiple Sports]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I talked to several women’s officials and they mentioned handchecks are called very tightly at the D1 level, and also very inconsistently.

If that’s true, that’s a shame. Multiple soft calls that you won’t see in NCAA-M, NBA, or the W.

Prior to Covid I observed for a D1 Co ordinator on the women's side. I sat with her and she noted six "hand checks" that went uncalled. I thought may be one was a missed call. A couple other friends work for Jon Levinson. They tell me repeatedly that he fjnds about 8 a game they don't call. Yes, hand on for two dribbles the woman's game wants a whistle. Zero consideration is given to advantage / disadvantage

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

Zero consideration is given to advantage / disadvantage

Sounds similar to the high school philosophy. Anything more than a single "hot stove" touch is illegal.

NFHS 10-7-12: The following acts constitute a foul when committed against a ball handler/dribbler. A player becomes a ball handler when he/she receives the ball. This would include a player in a post position.
a. Placing two hands on the player.
b. Placing an extended arm bar on the player.
c. Placing and keeping a hand on the player.
d. Contacting the player more than once with the same hand or alternating hands.

NFHS 10.7.12 SITUATION A: A1 is dribbling in the frontcourt and B1 (a) places two hands on the dribbler; (b) places an extended arm bar on the dribbler; (c) places and keeps a hand on the dribbler; (d) contacts the dribbler more than once with the same hand or alternating hands. RULING: Illegal in all cases. A personal foul shall be ruled any time this type of contact occurs on a player holding or dribbling the ball. (10-6-12)

[MechanicGuy]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

Prior to Covid I observed for a D1 Co ordinator on the women's side. I sat with her and she noted six "hand checks" that went uncalled. I thought may be one was a missed call. A couple other friends work for Jon Levinson. They tell me repeatedly that he fjnds about 8 a game they don't call. Yes, hand on for two dribbles the woman's game wants a whistle. Zero consideration is given to advantage / disadvantage

This may be the case, but given the expressions on the LSU players face and the uncertain looks from the Iowa players after some of the whistles - it definitely hadn't been called that way for some time.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I talked to several women’s officials and they mentioned handchecks are called very tightly at the D1 level, and also very inconsistently.

If that’s true, that’s a shame. Multiple soft calls that you won’t see in NCAA-M, NBA, or the W.

The rule on the Women's side is pretty clear--keep your hands off non-post ball handlers. There are no more inconsistent at enforcing their standards than NCAA-Men's officials, IMO.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Raymond

The rule on the Women's side is pretty clear--keep your hands off non-post ball handlers. There are no more inconsistent at enforcing their standards than NCAA-Men's officials, IMO.

Totally agree. Many of Men's officials justify everything to not call it (including me sometimes).

Peace