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Old Sun Feb 05, 2023, 03:28pm
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Any of you have to address racist remarks and taunting from the crowd? How would you have handled this as an official?
If the crowd yells bothersome inappropriate remarks at me, or my partner, I'm probably not waiting for the site director (school official) to react, rather, I'm immediately bringing it to the attention of the site director (school official), and I'm probably offering a suggestion (warning or expulsion), and in the worst cases, it may not only be a suggestion, but a mandate.

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I have no problem stopping the game and not resuming until it was addressed.
I would also followup with a report to my game assigner, who might choose to bump it up to the state interscholastic sports governing body.

If the crowd yells bothersome possibly inappropriate (booing, air ball, miss, you can't do that, etc.) remarks to the players, I'm probably first waiting to see if the site director (school official) reacts. In the worst cases (swearing, epithets, racial, ethnic, etc.), if they don't react, and they chose to ignore, I will probably bring it to their attention and possibly offer a suggestion (warning or expulsion), but I doubt that I would mandate anything, it's more of a school problem, to be handled, in its own way, by the school administrators, rather than a problem to be dealt with by a game official. At the minimum, I would not ignore. I would also followup with a report to my game assigner, who might choose to bump it up to the state interscholastic sports governing body.

In both cases, I would not have any direct contact or direct communication with fans. That's the site director's (school official) job, not the job of game officials, we're there to just report such incidents to the site director (school official), and to possibly advise (warning or expulsion) the site director (school official).
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Old Sun Feb 05, 2023, 03:31pm
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If the crowd yells bothersome inappropriate remarks at me, or my partner, I'm probably not waiting for the site director (school official) to react, rather, I'm immediately bringing it to the attention of the site director (school official), and I'm probably offering a suggestion (warning or expulsion), and in the worst cases, it may not only be a suggestion, but a mandate. I would also followup with a report to my game assigner, who might choose to bump it up to the state interscholastic sports governing body.

If the crowd yells bothersome inappropriate remarks to the players, I'm probably first waiting to see if the site director (school official) reacts. In the worst cases, if they don't react, and they chose to ignore, I will probably bring it to their attention and possibly offer a suggestion (warning or expulsion), but I doubt that I would mandate anything, it's more of a school problem, to be handled, in its own way, by the school administrators, rather than a problem to be dealt with by a game official. But I would followup with a report to my game assigner, who might choose to bump it up to the state interscholastic sports governing body.
Why would you only address something of that nature if it was only directed at you or your partner(s)?

If remarks are unacceptable towards a game official, they're unacceptable towards the student athletes.

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Old Sun Feb 05, 2023, 03:59pm
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If remarks are unacceptable towards a game official, they're unacceptable towards the student's athletes.
Fans yell at players all the time (booing, air ball, miss, you can't do that, etc.) Many are locally (it could vary from one school to another) considered acceptable as part of the game. But as they get worse (swearing, epithets, racial, ethnic, etc.) they must be dealt with, by officials, or by site directors (school officials), or by both.

Yelling at game officials with words (not swearing, not epithets, not racial, not ethic, etc.) that may be deemed locally acceptable if yelled at players, may not be similarly acceptable if yelled at game officials.

"You stink" (or similar words) may be locally acceptable if yelled at players (probably wouldn't get my attention) but, depending on the volume (stands out in a crowd) and tone, may not be acceptable if yelled at a game official and would get my attention and a tête-à-tête with the site director (school officials).
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