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Old Sun Dec 11, 2022, 04:28pm
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NCAA-M shot clock question

Shot clock shows 18 seconds when A1 attempts to dunk the ball. He gets "stuffed" by the rim and the try never leaves his hands before the ball contacts the rim. A2 controls the rebound in Team A's frontcourt. Does the shot clock reset to 20 seconds?

I seem to remember that there was a time when the reset occurred when the try hit the rim after being released by the shooter. But I can't find that verbiage anymore.

In our game, we allowed the 20 second reset because the dunk attempt was a try and it contacted the ring. Did we make the correct decision?
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Old Sun Dec 11, 2022, 07:36pm
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I don’t know the text of the NCAAM rule, but who in their right mind would argue against that? The intent and purpose of the shot clock was clearly met.
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Old Sun Dec 11, 2022, 08:35pm
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The ball hit the rim on a shot attempt. What more do you need to know to reset the shot clock? Unless you find and A.R. that says otherwise, reset the clock and move on. To me you are doing what a lot of officials tend to do, they have to find the exact reference and do not use common sense to just call the game. There would have to be something I know that says otherwise not to reset a shot that hit the rim on a dunk attempt. As stated, what is the intent and purpose of the rule?

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Old Mon Dec 12, 2022, 10:40pm
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The ball hit the rim on a shot attempt. What more do you need to know to reset the shot clock?
To be clear, we all agreed that the reset was correct. But somewhere in the mists of time, I thought I remembered that the rule used to say that the ball had to be released to get a reset. Maybe I was making that up.
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Old Tue Dec 13, 2022, 01:30am
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To be clear, we all agreed that the reset was correct. But somewhere in the mists of time, I thought I remembered that the rule used to say that the ball had to be released to get a reset. Maybe I was making that up.
The rules say for a reset for 30 and a reset for 20 is when a try his the ring or flange.

Rule 2-11.6.a.4 says:
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4. A try for goal strikes the ring or flange and control is gained by the nonshooting team;
And Rule 2-11.6.d.1 says:

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1. The offensive team is the first to gain control of the ball in their frontcourt after an unsuccessful field goal attempt that contacts the ring or flange......
Nothing about the release. IJS

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Old Tue Dec 13, 2022, 01:47pm
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The rules say for a reset for 30 and a reset for 20 is when a try his the ring or flange.

Rule 2-11.6.a.4 says:


And Rule 2-11.6.d.1 says:



Nothing about the release. IJS

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Old Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:49am
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To be clear, we all agreed that the reset was correct. But somewhere in the mists of time, I thought I remembered that the rule used to say that the ball had to be released to get a reset. Maybe I was making that up.
Maybe you're thinking of the play where a defender blocks a dunk attempt into the rim while the ball is still in A1's hands? I had an email exchange with John Adams when he was coordinator and he said in that case the clock would not be reset.
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Old Tue Dec 13, 2022, 01:45pm
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Maybe you're thinking of the play where a defender blocks a dunk attempt into the rim while the ball is still in A1's hands? I had an email exchange with John Adams when was coordinator and he said in that case the clock would not be reset.
This could be it. I just want to know that I'm not crazy. LOL
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