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Old Wed May 04, 2022, 03:27pm
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Not sure what you mean by "odd?". I've been addressing HCs or ACs with those types of issues since I can't remember when.
For me, only if the player gives me a problem will I go to the head coach.

95% of the time, it's me watching the layup lines, spotting a jewelry, undershirt, headband, sleeve, etc., issue, and saying something directly to the player, who usually complies. That's the way everybody here in my little corner of Connecticut has been doing it for over forty years.

Can't wait to discover why the NFHS thinks it's wrong to say, "You can't play with those earrings".
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Old Thu May 05, 2022, 12:13am
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I believe the idea is that illegal uniforms/apparel are first and foremost the HC's responsibility. Same reason that playing with an illegal uniform has been a direct TF to the coach since 2008. (I don't miss the days of starting the game with ten free throws.)
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Old Thu May 05, 2022, 08:55am
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I believe the idea is that illegal uniforms/apparel are first and foremost the HC's responsibility.
Sounds plausible.

2-4-5: The referee must: Verify with the head coach, prior to each contest, that his/her team member’s uniforms and equipment are legal and will be worn properly, and that all participants will exhibit proper sporting behavior throughout the contest.
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Old Thu May 05, 2022, 09:06am
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Sounds plausible.

2-4-5: The referee must: Verify with the head coach, prior to each contest, that his/her team member’s uniforms and equipment are legal and will be worn properly, and that all participants will exhibit proper sporting behavior throughout the contest.
It's more than plausible, it's what makes sense. Instead of dealing with individuals, you deal with a single person in authority over all the individuals.

"Coach, your players cannot participate with earrings"

"Huh? Who has on earrings?"

"For example, the player grabbing the rebound right now in the lay-up line"

"Thanks, we'll take care of it"

As opposed to:

"Why are you sending my player back to the bench?"

"I told him during warm-ups he couldn't play with earrings"
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Old Thu May 05, 2022, 10:02am
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Instead of dealing with individuals, you deal with a single person in authority over all the individuals.
Sounds like something the NFHS would say. I bet that Raymond turns out to be correct.
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Old Thu May 05, 2022, 10:06am
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I will go to the player and let them know what rules apply. Give them a chance to correct it. But I still go to the coach to tell them what is going to happen moving forward. Sometimes talking to the player can help you know what they have on, instead of assuming. I have seen things players wear and only was able to find out by talking to the player. Coaches often have a buffer of not knowing which does not tell you the entire story. But that is just me.

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Old Thu May 05, 2022, 10:26am
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I will go to the player and let them know what rules apply. Give them a chance to correct it. But I still go to the coach to tell them what is going to happen moving forward ...
I will mention this in my pregame meeting. "We already had a problem with an earring (or whatever), but we already took care of it".
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Old Thu May 05, 2022, 10:23am
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Worst Case Scenario ...

I'm really pushing the limits here. Won't happen in a billion games, but if it did it would be in mine.

I spot a player with earrings in a three on two half court pregame drill. I make my way over to discuss with the coach, per the point of emphasis, and the coach heads over to discuss with the player. During that ten second interval, an earring get ripped out.

Next game, as I come out onto the court a stranger shows up with a subpoena and says, "BillyMac, you are served. Risk of injury to a minor for allowing a player to continue to warm up while wearing an earring, clearly against the rules and interpretations as written". Coach is also served.

Of course, I can just whip out my 2022-23 NFHS Rulebook (books that my local board will not be giving to us next year as a cost cutting measure) and be ready to show the point of emphasis to the judge.

Of course, this will never happen. Just a fairy tale to scare kids.
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Old Thu May 05, 2022, 11:32am
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I'm really pushing the limits here. Won't happen in a billion games, but if it did it would be in mine.

I spot a player with earrings in a three on two half court pregame drill. I make my way over to discuss with the coach, per the point of emphasis, and the coach heads over to discuss with the player. During that ten second interval, an earring get ripped out.

Next game, as I come out onto the court a stranger shows up with a subpoena and says, "BillyMac, you are served. Risk of injury to a minor for allowing a player to continue to warm up while wearing an earring, clearly against the rules and interpretations as written". Coach is also served.

Of course, I can just whip out my 2022-23 NFHS Rulebook (books that my local board will not be giving to us next year as a cost cutting measure) and be ready to show the point of emphasis to the judge.

Of course, this will never happen. Just a fairy tale to scare kids.
Who is the plaintiff, the parent who allowed has their child to wear the earrings in the first place?
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