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Old Wed May 04, 2022, 01:47pm
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The third point of emphasis reminds officials to first address illegal uniforms, equipment and apparel directly with the head coach and not players.
Instead of, "You can't play with those earrings", we have to say, "She can't play with those earrings".

Odd?
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Old Wed May 04, 2022, 03:07pm
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Instead of, "You can't play with those earrings", we have to say, "She can't play with those earrings".

Odd?
Not sure what you mean by "odd?".

I've been addressing HCs or ACs with those types of issues since I can't remember when.
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Old Wed May 04, 2022, 03:27pm
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Not sure what you mean by "odd?". I've been addressing HCs or ACs with those types of issues since I can't remember when.
For me, only if the player gives me a problem will I go to the head coach.

95% of the time, it's me watching the layup lines, spotting a jewelry, undershirt, headband, sleeve, etc., issue, and saying something directly to the player, who usually complies. That's the way everybody here in my little corner of Connecticut has been doing it for over forty years.

Can't wait to discover why the NFHS thinks it's wrong to say, "You can't play with those earrings".
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Old Thu May 05, 2022, 12:13am
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I believe the idea is that illegal uniforms/apparel are first and foremost the HC's responsibility. Same reason that playing with an illegal uniform has been a direct TF to the coach since 2008. (I don't miss the days of starting the game with ten free throws.)
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Old Thu May 05, 2022, 08:55am
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I believe the idea is that illegal uniforms/apparel are first and foremost the HC's responsibility.
Sounds plausible.

2-4-5: The referee must: Verify with the head coach, prior to each contest, that his/her team member’s uniforms and equipment are legal and will be worn properly, and that all participants will exhibit proper sporting behavior throughout the contest.
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Old Thu May 05, 2022, 09:06am
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Sounds plausible.

2-4-5: The referee must: Verify with the head coach, prior to each contest, that his/her team member’s uniforms and equipment are legal and will be worn properly, and that all participants will exhibit proper sporting behavior throughout the contest.
It's more than plausible, it's what makes sense. Instead of dealing with individuals, you deal with a single person in authority over all the individuals.

"Coach, your players cannot participate with earrings"

"Huh? Who has on earrings?"

"For example, the player grabbing the rebound right now in the lay-up line"

"Thanks, we'll take care of it"

As opposed to:

"Why are you sending my player back to the bench?"

"I told him during warm-ups he couldn't play with earrings"
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Old Thu May 05, 2022, 10:02am
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Instead of dealing with individuals, you deal with a single person in authority over all the individuals.
Sounds like something the NFHS would say. I bet that Raymond turns out to be correct.
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Old Thu May 05, 2022, 08:51am
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Instead of, "You can't play with those earrings", we have to say, "She can't play with those earrings".

Odd?
In track and field, we've been doing this for a few years now.

You want to pole vault with stud earings...have at it.
You want to pole vault with big hoops that have the potential of getting caught in the landing system and ripping your ear apart...I have no intention of letting that athlete compete while wearing those earrings.
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Old Thu May 05, 2022, 11:05am
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... You want to pole vault with big hoops that have the potential of getting caught in the landing system and ripping your ear apart ... I have no intention of letting that athlete compete while wearing those earrings.
Note: I know more about black hole singularities than I know about track and field rules.

Spot the earring just before a vault? Tell the vaulter right away that there will be no vault with an earring, or don't say a word (not even, "Wait") to the vaulter and go and find the head coach, who may be nowhere near the vaulting area, but is out behind the bleachers in the discus area?

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The third point of emphasis reminds officials to first address illegal uniforms, equipment and apparel directly with the head coach and not players.
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Old Thu May 05, 2022, 11:33am
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The third point of emphasis reminds officials to first address illegal uniforms, equipment and apparel directly with the head coach and not players.
3-7: The referee must not permit any team member to participate if in his/her judgment any item constitutes a safety concern, such as, but not limited to, a player’s fingernails or hairstyle.

Could earrings be considered a safety concern? Do team members participating include pregame warmups? Should an official allow a team member with earrings continue to warmup while the official walks to the other side of the court (across both the division line and the basket line) to discuss the infraction with the head coach?
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