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Old Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:16pm
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By the time we see the center official he's coming in with two hands up emphatically as if his initial whistle was not heard. I believe he blew his whistle off-camera where we can't see it as Purdue was first batting the ball after the save.

Of course, we can all speculate all day long until somebody actually talks to somebody on that crew.

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Old Mon Mar 28, 2022, 05:18pm
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Giant Dumpster Fire ...

I don't know a lot about college basketball officiating, but it appears that from the initial split-second catch, or non-catch, and throw/tip/tap/slap back, until the conclusion and announcement of the monitor review, everything in between (dribble, shot clock, team control, etc.) was just a giant dumpster fire.

I'm not fully blaming the officials, there were a lot of tough judgment calls that occurred in a very short period of time. Nothing was easy about this situation.

Watched a friend work a state semifinal a few weeks ago. At one point he was the trail in the back corner of the frontcourt, in front of and trapped against the table, with one partner all the way down on the end line, and the other partner all the way over on the other side of the court, with their own active matchups, so no real help (except for the two head coaches standing within a few feet of him). He had several decisions to go through on a play in that corner as one offensive player was trapped in the corner by two defensive players, and then the players went to the floor after the ball got loose the floor. What initially was almost a five second call (he was counting) became either an offensive team control foul, a defensive foul, out of bounds (on either team), backcourt, or a held ball, all while he had to listen for a coach (or coaches) requesting, and he possibly granting, a timeout. All this in a few seconds.

He came out with the strongest held ball call that I've ever seen.

It's not easy being a high school, or college, basketball official.
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2022, 12:55am
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The closest analogy is to football wherein a wide receiver's "catch" is really not a catch unless he "controls the ball".
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2022, 08:07am
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That makes sense. I'm not sure if anyone controlled the ball after the airball, so if I were on the court, I'd blow the play dead for the shot clock violation.
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2022, 08:21am
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That makes sense. I'm not sure if anyone controlled the ball after the airball, so if I were on the court, I'd blow the play dead for the shot clock violation.
Which is what the Center official did, but I don't think he should have done it. The Lead and Trail had clear looks at the save and the Center should have deferred to their judgment as to whether or not the save constituted PC/TC for St. Peter's.
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2022, 08:26am
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I believe play should have been stopped before the save, because the ball was rolling around in nobody's control when the shot clock was at 0. I understand why C stopped the game, so I'm not sure why play was allowed to continue longer.
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2022, 10:32am
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I believe play should have been stopped before the save, because the ball was rolling around in nobody's control when the shot clock was at 0. I understand why C stopped the game, so I'm not sure why play was allowed to continue longer.
There was an airball, and after bouncing off the floor a St. Peter's player saved it from going OOB.

It was never rolling around.
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Control ...

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I'm not sure if anyone controlled the ball after the airball ...
Riddle me this.

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If this player had touched an inbounds pass in this manner before "directing" it toward the basket with 0.3 seconds on the clock, followed by the ball entering the basket, would one count the basket?
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