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Old Thu Feb 17, 2022, 11:17pm
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I am glad that I no longer do many high school games. In the limited number I have done this season, I have definitely noticed a deterioration in the behavior of coaches and fans. Luckily, I am at a point in my officiating career that I do not need high school games, which has allowed me to adopt a philosophy of being as obnoxious to others as they are to me. A few examples: coach to me after I have just given him a technical foul for yelling across the floor about
a no-call "I would appreciate the professional curtesy of a warning."
My response to him "I would appreciate the professional curtesy of you not yelling at me from across the floor. Unfortunately, you are unable to control yourself, so here we are. Enjoy sitting for the remainder of the game." Another coach to me, after he has just been ejected for getting a second technical foul "I'm calling the assignor." My response, "Go ahead and call the assignor, but you are going to be doing it from the ****ing parking lot."
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2022, 12:18am
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As with anything, this very much depends on the specific league. The JuCo league I work in, the coaches by and large behave themselves (the commissioner does not tolerate nonsense and is vocally supportive of officials handling business), and the ones who don't move on once they get whacked. I would work a JuCo game in that league over a high school game 101 times out of 100.

I do agree with you though. College coaches usually don't take getting whacked personally, and the ones who get whacked every game know they are turds and have no credibility with the assigner.
I am just making an overall observation. Of course, there are coaches at many colleges that are usually very petty and stupid at times. My point is it just usually does not get them very far acting that way and why some are not there very long (not just because of how they act here). I have had a couple of JUCO guys this year that were very professional and reasonable. Just not always the case. Heck one of the biggest jerks and unprofessional coaches I have had is a D2 coach. But in general, they have held to some accountability that high school coaches are not often held to. And just like you said the supervisor makes a world of difference as well.

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Old Fri Feb 18, 2022, 10:32pm
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I agree with the sentiment of the OP mainly from a workload perspective. Tonight was the first non-Sunday I've had off since 1/24. My slate was full from reschedules due to COVID and more recently weather. The calendar is a tyrant; the tournaments still have to start on time, but as many regular season games as possible still have to get played for accurate seeding. So it has been a crucible lately. I'm pretty worn out. Frankly, I'm sure the players and coaches are, too.

Other than that, it hasn't felt too different. I actually didn't mind having some of the a$$hole fans back in the stands this year. It felt more normal than echoes surrounded by dead silence, that's for sure.
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Old Tue Feb 22, 2022, 12:25pm
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... "When will this end?" (my local board had to politely refuse to assign middle school officials in two major city school systems due to our lack of available afternoon officials, so these two cites postponed their middle school games until later in the season, just starting last week and scheduling through March 10, 2022, about month later than normal).
Not soon enough.

After having four days in a row off (felt like a vacation), I'm getting middle school assignments for those two school systems, as expected.

Weird. Assignments in one school system are late afternoon assignments, as late as 4:30 p.m. Connecticut middle schools usually start games at 3:30 p.m. Why? This school system is experiencing a bus driver shortage due to COVID (I'm sure that there are other reasons). Bus drivers normally make three "runs" every morning and afternoon. In the afternoon high school students go home first, middle school students second, and finally elementary school students. All middle school games in this school system are intra-school system (five middle school teams, boys and girls each) games, so four gendered teams need buses on game days. Basketball teams are a low priority and can't be transported until the elementary school students are bused home.

Good news, these games are not doubleheaders.

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Old Tue Feb 22, 2022, 02:10pm
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We had an official get accosted by a coach and the AD filed complaints on the officials and blatantly lied as did the coach. Any attorneys out there?

Too much power is given to these schools IMO

The schools hire us here as well as assign our assignor.
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Old Tue Feb 22, 2022, 03:11pm
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We had an official get accosted by a coach and the AD filed complaints on the officials and blatantly lied as did the coach. Any attorneys out there?



Too much power is given to these schools IMO



The schools hire us here as well as assign our assignor.
Prime example of why I'm glad I don't work in an environment where schools directly contract the officials and/or assigners.

My state our commissioners answer to the state high school organization. Any event such as the one you are referencing or a coach/player getting ejected gets filed formally with the state.

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Old Tue Feb 22, 2022, 03:19pm
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We had an official get accosted by a coach and the AD filed complaints on the officials and blatantly lied as did the coach. Any attorneys out there?

Too much power is given to these schools IMO

The schools hire us here as well as assign our assignor.
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Prime example of why I'm glad I don't work in an environment where schools directly contract the officials and/or assigners.

My state our commissioners answer to the state high school organization. Any event such as the one you are referencing or a coach/player getting ejected gets filed formally with the state.
The first couple of years of my career was being assigned games by the school which meant either the coach or the AD did the assigning. When I moved to the Chicago area, that was not at all like that in any way. Glad I got away from that model because it did nothing but cause conflict where it did not need to be caused and school personnel thought it was their right to address you directly. But most schools had ADs that were not burning those bridges despite what their coach felt or was going to do. But now everything is assigned by an assignor even if the school runs an event, they ask someone to assign the officials. Also no association for the most part assigns anything either, just the person that works for the conference. Much more of a buffer between the officials and the schools.

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