Apparel 3-5

[Zoochy]

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/high...539dcb.html#17
See 18th picture. Is anything illegal with #11's tights?

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/high...33130c7ac.html
See 1st picture. Is anything illegal with #1's tights? Do they need to be the same visual length?

[BryanV21]

I believe as long as they don't normally show (like when a player just stands straight) then any color is fine. Otherwise, if they normally extend below the bottom of the shorts, they need to be the same basic color of the shorts.

At least I remember something like that.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I believe as long as they don't normally show (like when a player just stands straight) then any color is fine. Otherwise, if they normally extend below the bottom of the shorts, they need to be the same basic color of the shorts.

BryanV21: 2017 called and wants their compression shorts back.

Headbands, wristbands, arm sleeves, knee sleeves, lower leg sleeves, compression shorts, and tights, shall be the solid color black, white, beige, or the predominant color of the jersey. All of these items shall be the same color as worn by each player. Additionally, all of these items shall be the same color for all members of a team who choose to wear them. Anything worn on the arm, and/or the leg (except a knee brace), is defined as a sleeve, including knee pads, and elbow pads, and must be the solid color black, white, beige, or the predominant color of the uniform jersey.

Previous to a rule change in 2016-17, compression shorts (tights) had to be the same color as the uniform shorts. Since then, tights (compression shorts) must be black, white, beige, or the predominant color of the jersey, depending on the color of all equipment (not knee braces, not hair control devices) worn by all members of the team.

There are no color restrictions on uniform shorts, they can be all the colors of the rainbow, and can be different colors for different team members, something we often see here in my little corner of Connecticut when junior varsity players play in the subsequent varsity game.

Also, as of 2014-15, there are no longer any rule references to "school colors", but we still have some players, coaches, and, unfortunately, officials that believe that "school color" rules still exist.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

Do they need to be the same visual length?

There are no "length restrictions" on any equipment (sans headbands and wristbands) except for undershirt sleeves.

Undershirts must be similar in color to the uniform jersey, and shall not have frayed edges. Undershirt sleeves shall be the same length. Note that this rule does not require all players to wear the same length sleeves on their undershirts, but each individual player must have sleeves the same length on the undershirt when worn.

Below: NFHS: Legal tights (assuming all teammates are wearing black color restricted equipment).

[Mike Goodwin]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/high...539dcb.html#17
See 18th picture. Is anything illegal with #11's tights?

That must be the oversized logo which shall be limited to 2¼ square inches and shall not exceed 2¼ inches in any dimension on any item. (3-6).

Edit: it's #10 Webster Groves' CJ Lang [<- search term] who has the tights with the illegal logo.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mike Goodwin

That must be the oversized logo which shall be limited to 2¼ square inches and shall not exceed 2¼ inches in any dimension on any item. (3-6).

Nice catch Mike Goodwin.

2¼ square inches? That's why I carry a tape measure along with a protractor, a slide rule, and an extra whistle in my pocket.

[BryanV21]

I'm getting old and losing my mind.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I'm getting old and losing my mind.

Hey, that's my line.

[Zoochy]

Originally Posted by Mike Goodwin

That must be the oversized logo which shall be limited to 2¼ square inches and shall not exceed 2¼ inches in any dimension on any item. (3-6).

Edit: it's #10 Webster Groves' CJ Lang [<- search term] who has the tights with the illegal logo.

He's been wearing those tights all year.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

He's been wearing those tights all year.

I'm one of the toughest "Fashion Police" officials that I know, yet I completely missed that violation as I was scrolling through the photos and looking for "fashion" issues.

Kudos to Mike Goodwin.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

... there are no rule references to "school colors", but we still have some players, coaches, and, unfortunately, officials that believe that "school color" rules exist ...

Have there ever been "school color" rules in the rulebook, or is this just another myth passed down from generation to generation by players and coaches as they sit around campfires eating s'mores?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Have there ever been "school color" rules in the rulebook, or is this just another myth passed down from generation to generation by players and coaches as they sit around campfires eating s'mores?

2013-14 interps

SITUATION 2: Prior to the start of the game, an official notices that several Team A members are wearing: (a) white wristbands and white headbands; or (b) black arm sleeves and white leg sleeves; or (c) black leg sleeves and white headbands.
RULING: Legal in (a) and (c); illegal in (b). In (a), wristbands and headbands shall be white, black, beige or a single solid school color and shall be the same for each item for all participants. In (b) illegal, the arm and leg sleeves shall be white, black, beige or a single solid school color and the same color for each team member. In (c), the rules do not require wristbands, headbands, arm and leg sleeves to all be the same color. (3-5-3, 3-5-4a)

SITUATION 3: The announcer announces (a) who scores (b) who fouls, (c) time left in the quarter.
RULING: Legal in (a) and (b); illegal in (c). In (a) and (b), the announcer is allowed to give basic information during the course of the game, such as who the foul is on, who is shooting free throws, which team is taking a time-out and the length of the time-out. In (c), announcing the amount of time left in the quarter is not information that should be given since there is a visible clock for all to see. There is no penalty. The announcer should be handled in the same manner as a scorekeeper or timer who are not in compliance with the spirit of the game. Appropriate training by school personnel and proper pregame instructions by the referee are necessary. (1-18)

SITUATION 4: Player A1 wears a red arm sleeve and his/her teammate, Player A2, wears a black leg sleeve.
RULING: Illegal. If worn, the leg and arm sleeves shall be white, black, beige or a single solid school color and the same for each team member. (3-5-3)

[Mike Goodwin]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I'm one of the toughest "Fashion Police" officials that I know, yet I completely missed that violation as I was scrolling through the photos.

I might have overlooked if I hadn't had to count photos while scrolling through. That's nearly a practical joke, Zooch!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

2013-14 interps

SITUATION 2: Prior to the start of the game, an official notices that several Team A members are wearing: (a) white wristbands and white headbands; or (b) black arm sleeves and white leg sleeves; or (c) black leg sleeves and white headbands. RULING: Legal in (a) and (c); illegal in (b). In (a), wristbands and headbands shall be white, black, beige or a single solid school color and shall be the same for each item for all participants. In (b) illegal, the arm and leg sleeves shall be white, black, beige or a single solid school color and the same color for each team member. In (c), the rules do not require wristbands, headbands, arm and leg sleeves to all be the same color. (3-5-3, 3-5-4a)

SITUATION 4: Player A1 wears a red arm sleeve and his/her teammate, Player A2, wears a black leg sleeve.
RULING: Illegal. If worn, the leg and arm sleeves shall be white, black, beige or a single solid school color and the same for each team member. (3-5-3)

Thanks bob jenkins. 2013-14 was the last we heard about "school colors".

2013-14: 3-5-4-A: Wristbands and headwear must meet the following guidelines: Headbands and wristbands must be white, black, beige or a single solid school color and must be the same color for each item and all participants.

2014-15: 3-5-4-A: Wristbands and headwear must meet the following guidelines: Headbands and wristbands must be white, black, beige or the predominant color of the jersey and must be the same color for each item and all participants.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

2013-14 interps: SITUATION 2: Prior to the start of the game, an official notices that several Team A members are wearing: (c) black leg sleeves and white headbands. RULING: Legal in (c); In (c), the rules do not require wristbands, headbands, arm and leg sleeves to all be the same color. (3-5-3, 3-5-4a)

I had forgotten that this (above) was legal only eight years ago.

Nice of the NFHS to simply the color restrictions. I wish that they would simply them a little bit more. I would not be adverse to ignoring all colors from the waist down.

Color restrictions above the waist? I can take them, or leave them, as long as the NFHS keeps the color restrictions for undershirts.