Fun With Arm Bars ...

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

JRutledge saw no contact. No contact, or not seeing any contact, means no foul, by everybody's philosophy. Can't argue with that.

We have to agree to disagree.

No, we are screened from the action of the defender most of the video. That does not mean there is no contact.

But again I keep remember I have having this conversation with an official that has never gone to camp, does not train officials and has never worked post season in their jurisdiction.

So I cannot argue is right.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have having this conversation with an official that has never gone to camp, does not train officials, and has never worked post season in their jurisdiction.

Been to dozens of camps, local, state, and regional, all high school, no college. Never a trainer at a camp.

Been on three training committees, once for rules, twice for mechanics, currently serving on the mechanics training committee.

Lots of post season games, conference (league) post season games, including one conference championship final. No state tournament games.

Apology, or more insults? JRutledge can decide which way to go, or to do nothing.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

No, we are screened from the action of the defender most of the video. That does not mean there is no contact.

Agree. It's basketball. There is always contact. It's a contact sport.

If one is screened (straight-lined, stacked), and doesn't observe contact, then one can only rule that there was no contact. Don't guess.

I only commented on the contact that I actually saw, not on what I didn't see, no guessing to fill in the blanks.

I didn't guess on the third contact, I saw contact, but it was the least obvious of all the contact that I observed upon further review.