Fun With Backcourt ...

[SC Official]

Great analysis that I agree with (and too many officials don't know the backcourt rule and don't care to learn or clean up their poor terminology).

However, with the lopsided score in Blue's favor this play is close enough that I feel pretty confident saying I would call this a BCV if I was on the game.

[BillyMac]

Maybe I got lucky and was in the right frame of mind when I watched, but I spotted that her foot was in contact with the floor when control was established (she wasn't airborne at the time) and the subsequent backcourt violation right away, first time through, in real time.

I would never consider not calling this in a game and was quite surprised that the IAABO International "Gang of Flour" even bothered to question the play and spent so much time discussing it, and why the official may have passed on the call.

Not bragging, just got lucky.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Maybe I got lucky and was in the right frame of mind when I watched, but I spotted that her foot was in contact with the floor when control was established (she wasn't airborne at the time) and the subsequent backcourt violation right away, first time through, in real time.

I would never consider not calling this in a game and was surprised that the IAABO International "Gang of Flour" even bothered to question the play.

Not bragging, just got lucky.

Sorry Billy, but I see a catch and then a 1-2 landing of the feet.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Sorry Billy, but I see a catch and then a 1-2 landing of the feet.

I was wrong. Nevadaref is correct. I was able to slow the video down to 1/4 speed (IAABO members have that option) and her left foot is still (barely) airborne when she catches the ball.

If you are not sure, don’t call it.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I don’t understand why IAABO writes that the correct answer is a backcourt violation ...

Maybe, similar to the "Fun With Rebounds" video, it was a mistake.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I was wrong. Nevadaref is correct. I was able to slow the video down to 1/4 speed (IAABO members have that option) and her left foot is still (barely) airborne when she catches the ball.

If you are not sure, don’t call it.

Agree...this is not a violation due to the player catching the ball with both feet off the floor then landing 1...2...with 2 being in the backcourt. That is an exception to the backcourt rule.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

... landing 1...2...with 2 being in the backcourt ...

Easy to hear in the near-empty gym.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

If you are not sure, don’t call it.

I was sure, which is why I ruled a violation, and I was still wrong.

Now I'm sure that I was wrong.

[SNIPERBBB]

So we are defining normal running as jumping now in the brief space of time when both feet are off the ground?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

So we are defining normal running as jumping now in the brief space of time when both feet are off the ground?

I was wondering the same. Identifying that split second where both feet MIGHT be off the ground at the same time is a pretty tough feat.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

So we are defining normal running as jumping now in the brief space of time when both feet are off the ground?

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[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

So we are defining normal running as jumping now in the brief space of time when both feet are off the ground?

Not really. The travel rule doesn't draw any distinction between the ways both feet could be of the floor. They're either on the floor or not and the rules apply accordingly. It seems the same standard should apply here. The point of this rule is really to allow a throwin to occur near the division line without having "gotcha" situations that are not really desirable.

[Nevadaref]

I don’t understand why IAABO writes that the correct answer is a backcourt violation, yet then goes on to reveal that the video shows that both of the defender’s feet were off the floor when she caught the ball and thus the subsequent landing is legal despite one foot coming down in the backcourt. The proper ruling is not a backcourt violation as proven by the video evidence.