pregame dunk

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

There is a case play which gives the proper procedure for this. It states not to sound the whistle.

10.5.1 SITUATION E: Fifteen minutes before the game is scheduled to start, team member A1 dunks. Two minutes later A2 dunks. RULING: A1 and A2 are both charged with a technical foul. In addition, the head coach is charged indirectly with a technical foul for each act. The two fouls are team fouls for purpose of reaching the bonus. When dunking occurs during the pregame practice period the official notifies the team member and the head coach, but does not sound the whistle. If the game is played in a state which utilizes the optional coaching box, the coach should be informed that he/she has lost the privilege of using the coaching box for the entire game. (10-4-1i)

[Altor]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

10.5.1 SITUATION E: Fifteen minutes before the game is scheduled to start, team member A1 dunks. Two minutes later A2 dunks. RULING: A1 and A2 are both charged with a technical foul. In addition, the head coach is charged indirectly with a technical foul for each act. The two fouls are team fouls for purpose of reaching the bonus. When dunking occurs during the pregame practice period the official notifies the team member and the head coach, but does not sound the whistle. If the game is played in a state which utilizes the optional coaching box, the coach should be informed that he/she has lost the privilege of using the coaching box for the entire game. (10-4-1i)

This is a bad part of a case play. If the official had sounded his whistle after the first one, A2 likely doesn't attempt a second.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Altor

This is a bad part of a case play. If the official had sounded his whistle after the first one, A2 likely doesn't attempt a second.

Interesting point. I always thought that "but does not sound the whistle" was more of a mechanics situation rather than a rules situation and often wondered about its purpose in the casebook.

Do they still sound pregame, "Warning. We're here. Stop dunking", whistles in Texas?

[LRZ]

"This is a bad part of a case play."

The case plays says to tell the offender and the head coach, but it doesn't prevent the official from also telling the other players not to dunk: "Son, that's a T. Listen up, everybody, don't dunk!"

Preventive officiating (from that point on), problem solved.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by LRZ

The case plays says to tell the offender and the head coach, but it doesn't prevent the official from also telling the other players not to dunk: "Son, that's a T. Listen up, everybody, don't dunk!" Preventive officiating (from that point on), problem solved.

I'm not a big fan of a "Hey everybody. Look at me." pregame whistle, but it would definitely let everybody in the gym, players on both teams, coaches, fans, police officer in the corner, priest on the bench, hot single Mom selling hot dogs in the concession stand, know that there will be no ignoring of pregame dunking that night.

[LRZ]

Stop it, BillyMac. You can accomplish this without becoming the center of attention. You've never stepped towards players on the layup line and said to them all, "tuck your shirts in" or something like that? And it need not be shouted, it can be done in a conversational tone.

I wish you'd stop channeling Mark Padgett; it's rarely amusing.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by LRZ

You can accomplish this without becoming the center of attention.

I was referring to sounding a whistle. A whistle seven minutes before the game begins would most certainly elicit attention.

Originally Posted by LRZ

You've never stepped towards players on the layup line and said to them all, "tuck your shirts in" or something like that?

"Tuck your shirts in"? Layup line? Never. I've got bigger fish to fry.

Earrings, undershirts, headbands, wrist bands, sleeves, earphones, long fingernails, making me decide if it's a dunk or not? Yes. Absolutely.

Originally Posted by LRZ

And it need not be shouted, it can be done in a conversational tone.

It certainly can, and I do it (see above), but a whistle would let everybody on both teams know that there will be no ignoring of pregame dunking that night, maybe preventing a second illegal pregame dunk down the other end of the court (extrapolating Altor's post).

However, I'll just continue follow 10.5.1 SITUATION E.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by LRZ

"Son, that's a T. Listen up, everybody, don't dunk!".

Originally Posted by LRZ

... in a conversational tone.

Are the players down the other end of the court going to be warned with this statement in a conversational tone over the music blaring throughout the gym?

Again, I'm not a big fan of the pregame dunking whistle, nor am I to willing to ignore 10.5.1 SITUATION E and be the first one on my block to do it, but, like Altor, I see some value in it, and I wouldn't take my whistle and go home if the interpretation was changed.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by LRZ

Stop it, BillyMac. You can accomplish this without becoming the center of attention. You've never stepped towards players on the layup line and said to them all, "tuck your shirts in" or something like that? And it need not be shouted, it can be done in a conversational tone.

I wish you'd stop channeling Mark Padgett; it's rarely amusing.

Listen you whippersnapper! Wait to get to be our age and I guarentee you will change your mind.

MTD, Sr.

P.S. I am in awe of Billy's technical skills to post these memes!