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Old Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:31pm
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To my fellow hoop officials who are taking Off the season, I sincerely hope that you will be safe and sane. Your expertise, cultural knowledge, and rich experience base will be sorely missed. I for one plan to work as normal; just got my new schedule Monday, then turnt around this morning and got an arbiter text msg saying that a set of games I was to work for this Monday has been cancelled already. But the Assignor told us to expect sudden cancellations--and since he already knows you are free on that day, then New games replacements will be added to my schedule in quick fashion. In fact, as I'm writing this post I just got an arbitermessenger saying "new games...".
To all of you refs who are taking the season off, I will surely miss your valuable insights, comments, and advice on the resolution of "wonky-type" plays that will inevitably be encountered this season. Please at least be available to respond to our posts because you all are most certainly appreciated by me!
Bless you'all!
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Old Tue Nov 17, 2020, 03:57pm
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I'm sitting the season out. It's not worth it and with numbers exploding, I don't expect much of a season. If I were single, then maybe I do it. My wife is scared to death about what is going on and doesn't want me exposed. I don't have a good response to that, so I will be sitting out.
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Old Tue Nov 17, 2020, 07:21pm
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I'm sitting the season out. It's not worth it and with numbers exploding, I don't expect much of a season. If I were single, then maybe I do it. My wife is scared to death about what is going on and doesn't want me exposed. I don't have a good response to that, so I will be sitting out.
That was the initial reason I wasn't going to work this season. Now that we have both had it, I just don't want deal with all the disruptions and uncertainties, necessary protocols, and lack of fellowship/socializing.

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Old Mon Dec 07, 2020, 09:43am
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That was the initial reason I wasn't going to work this season. Now that we have both had it, I just don't want deal with all the disruptions and uncertainties, necessary protocols, and lack of fellowship/socializing.

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Funny you mention that. I recently had it too, but now I'm over it so I'm back in to honor my contracts. I'm not looking forward to it and it's going to be a crappy year.
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2020, 02:42pm
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My wife and I both had COVID and neither one of us ever had a fever.
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I recently had it too, but now I'm over it ...
Once one has COVID-19, is one immune, as with some childhood diseases (chicken pox and measles)?

And if so how long does the immunity last?
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2020, 03:09pm
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Once one has COVID-19, is one immune, as with some childhood diseases (chicken pox and measles)?

And if so how long do the immunity last?
So far, research indicates that immunity should last for years. Of course, at the moment, there's no way to verify that. My wife and I are operating under the assumption that we are safe enough to go to the end of the line for vaccinations.

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Old Mon Dec 07, 2020, 03:42pm
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So far, research indicates that immunity should last for years. Of course, at the moment, there's no way to verify that. My wife and I are operating under the assumption that we are safe enough to go to the end of the line for vaccinations.
Thanks.

Do you both feel safe enough to not wear a mask and to not socially distance when you come into contact with high risk individuals (elderly, chemotherapy, etc.)?

Do you both feel safe enough to not wear a mask and to not socially distance when you come in contact with strangers outside of your immediate household (cohort) who may, or may not, have COVID, either symptomatic, or asymptomatic?

Even if you are immune to COVID and can't get sick (long term or short term), can you still be an asymptomatic carrier of the virus and infect others?
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2020, 04:13pm
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Once one has COVID-19, is one immune, as with some childhood diseases (chicken pox and measles)?

And if so how long does the immunity last?

Does anybody really know????

I've been told anywhere from 90-150 days of being "immune". My wife was doing some research the other day and read the number of days may be incorrect as there could be different strains out there.
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2020, 05:00pm
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Does anybody really know????



I've been told anywhere from 90-150 days of being "immune". My wife was doing some research the other day and read the number of days may be incorrect as there could be different strains out there.
Initially, we were thinking that after 90 days we would start being cautious again. But more and more research is showing that immunity is longer than that. By the time our 90-day window is up people will have started getting the vaccine plus a lot more people will have contracted the virus.

One of my best friends is going through metastatic breast cancer treatment and she has felt comfortable spending time with me and my wife.

There are still a lot of restrictions in place in Virginia, so it's not like we can just go out and live life like it's 1999. But we do plan on going out to movies if something is playing that we like. We've attended in person Bible study, but twice our sessions have had to go to Zoom because of positive cases, including ours.

Bottom line, we feel more comfortable doing things out and about than we did before we contracted the virus. That being said, we are both very respectful of others, and we never want to put anybody in a position of feeling uncomfortable.



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Old Tue Nov 17, 2020, 07:22pm
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To my fellow hoop officials who are taking Off the season, I sincerely hope that you will be safe and sane. Your expertise, cultural knowledge, and rich experience base will be sorely missed...
What are your testing requirements and protocols?


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Old Mon Nov 23, 2020, 12:47pm
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What are your testing requirements and protocols?


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*Our local ref association does not cite or mandate any unique protocols, our Director has just said that we should follow whatever the Host site schools require. However, I will be wearing my black neck gaiter.
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Old Mon Nov 23, 2020, 01:12pm
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*Our local ref association does not cite or mandate any unique protocols, our Director has just said that we should follow whatever the Host site schools require. However, I will be wearing my black neck gaiter.
Just wondering who will bear the cost should a venue or school require officials to test before working there.

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Old Mon Nov 23, 2020, 01:23pm
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Just wondering who will bear the cost should a venue or school require officials to test before working there.
Not me. We're well paid in Connecticut, but not that well paid. And I don't think that my health insurance company will appreciate me getting a COVID test for a non-medical reason.

If this is the case, I'll be sitting out this dance.

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Old Mon Nov 23, 2020, 07:59pm
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Just wondering who will bear the cost should a venue or school require officials to test before working there.

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*The use of a temperature scanner upon entry to the Host site gymnasia should suffice?
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Old Mon Nov 23, 2020, 08:07pm
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*The use of a temperature scanner upon entry to the Host site gymnasia should suffice?
My wife and I both had COVID and neither one of us ever had a fever.

I know the D1 consortiums, and of course high school referees don't operate the same, are requiring three tests a week.

Not criticizing, just more for my internal survey purposes in regards to how different entities, states, and localities are doing things.

As I've mentioned, I'm not working this year because of all the uncertainty and disruptions.



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