Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1039678)

This is when you start losing the audience and anybody who may have some good information doesn't bother reading the rest of the thread.

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1039678)

This is when you start losing the audience and anybody who may have some good information doesn't bother reading the rest of the thread.

Originally Posted by LRZ (Post 1039683)

... And we are your enablers.

Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 1039658)

... other NCAA sports do use the same rules for men and women (except lacrosse because M/W lacrosse are two almost entirely different games).

Originally Posted by LRZ (Post 1039683)

You just can't stop yourself, can you?

Originally Posted by Stat-Man (Post 1039708)

At one point, NCAA-M and W did share a common rule book through the late 1990s and early 2000s with differences for men and women noted as appropriate. I'm not sure what year it was when the men's and women's rules diverged into separate rule books to reflect the different trends, philosophies, strategies, etc. when comparing the men's game with the women's.

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman (Post 1039663)

As to the other rules relating to those marks on the court you were probably expecting Mark DeNucci to mosey along for, I believe you were referring to the provisions on "lack of sufficient action". They depended on the score of the game at the time. The team that was behind in score, believe it or not, was responsible for "action"; if the score was tied, it was (again, believe it or not) the team without the ball that was responsible. Seems like these provisions were there to magnify an advantage.

When the team with responsibility for action had the ball in the front court, it was a violation for their players alone or in combination to hold the ball in the midcourt area defined by those marks for 5 seconds at a time, after a once-a-game warning. When the opponents of he team with responsibility for action had the ball in that midcourt area, after a similar warning, the team with responsibility had to not leave him not closely guarded for 5 seconds at a time. If those opponents also had another player in the midcourt area, the team with responsibility had to put one other player in the midcourt area when the ball was there. Additional players by the team without responsibility did not incur any additional requirement of defenders to come into that area.

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1039632)

Young'uns: Back in ancient times, these four hash marks had a real purpose in high school games.

One was regarding a five second closely guarded count. If a dribbler was close to a five second closely guarded dribbling count violation he could get a new count by dribbling forward past the 28 foot hash mark extended. Under certain conditions, between holding and dribbling a ball handler could avoid a closely guarded violation for up to sixteen seconds (unlike today's twelve seconds).

Another was for delay of game. Under certain conditions, stalling offensive teams were required to move the ball past the 28 foot hash mark extended, and stalling defensive teams were required to come out and play defense (closely guarded) past the 28 foot hash mark extended.

There's a lot more to the ancient times delay of game rule. I'm sure that Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. will be moseying by shortly to give us all the details.

Originally Posted by Mregor (Post 1039713)

Ahh, the old forecourt and front court. The good old days.

Originally Posted by Mregor (Post 1039713)

Ahh, the old forecourt and front court ...

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1039718)

SMH. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1039718)

SMH. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1039719)

Hey, it was for the young'uns.