The Upcoming Season WAYGD?

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Boys and girls cross country. Staggered starts and finishes to maintain social distancing.

Distancing? In the amount of air on a cross country course?!

Girls swimming (girls swimming in fall, boys swimming in winter, in Connecticut). "Virtual" meets. Teams swim in their home pools and compare times after the "virtual" meet.

When you're that wet, no chance of transmitting a respiratory virus. Except on the backstroke, your face is getting washed every stroke. Swimming in marked lanes is as much distancing as they impose at the supermarket.

Besides all that, if we could get children to spread the virus (and therefore immunity to it) around faster, they'd be doing society a favor. It's counterproductive to isolate any but persons with risk conditions for severe disease. Social distancing just prolongs the pandemic.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

... It's counterproductive to isolate any but persons with risk conditions for severe disease. Social distancing just prolongs the pandemic.

Some people prefer a vaccine or prophylactic in place before getting exposed. Other folks live or consistently interact with people in at-risk categories.

And shockingly, there are lots and lots of people who are in at-risk categories who like to be employed and earn a living in safe working conditions.

The biggest hindrance and consideration for me returning to the court this winter is whether or not wife is comfortable with me doing so and coming home to her every night. If the basketball season started tomorrow, I can tell you right now I'd be living in a separate bedroom, eating dinner from across the dining room table, and practicing celibacy.



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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Distancing? In the amount of air on a cross country course? ... When you're that wet, no chance of transmitting a respiratory virus. Except on the backstroke, your face is getting washed every stroke. Swimming in marked lanes is as much distancing as they impose at the supermarket ...

While I grant you that these restrictions are mostly for show (like King Canute trying to stop the tide), these restrictions can't hurt.

I've attended a lot cross country meets (my son ran in high school and college). The start of a multi-team meets looks like a herd of bison, often with dozens, or even a hundred, runners packed together at the starting line. Runners often draft behind other runners in a very narrow course and could be running through the previous runners exhaled air, and cross country runners are known for constantly spitting (in high school my son's team wore T-shirts warning of such). In races with no timing chips, finishers are "herded" into chutes for proper scoring (while still heavily breathing, catching their breath).

Swimmers don't wear masks as shoppers in a grocery store do. While I'm pretty sure that, while in the water, swimmers would be pretty safe, the problem would be all the milling around on the pool deck (as anyone whose been at an indoor pool knows, ventilation often isn't great) between heats and events, and using the locker rooms to change out of wet suits. Virtual meets also take the bus ride out of the equation.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

... if we could get children to spread the virus (and therefore immunity to it) around faster, they'd be doing society a favor. It's counterproductive to isolate any but persons with risk conditions for severe disease. Social distancing just prolongs the pandemic.

And just how is that herd immunity approach working for Sweden?

https://news.yahoo.com/sweden-used-c...171500455.html

https://news.yahoo.com/why-a-herd-im...153057073.html

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

And just how is that herd immunity approach working for Sweden?

https://news.yahoo.com/sweden-used-c...171500455.html

Working as good as what we've done here (according to Johns Hopkins...same deaths per capita). The real picture will only become know once this all ends. Perhaps they reach the end sooner (that is their theory) and they'll look like geniuses...but maybe not. You can't know how it will turn out in the end until we're there.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The real picture will only become know once this all ends. Perhaps they reach the end sooner ... and they'll look like geniuses ...but maybe not. You can't know how it will turn out in the end until we're there.

Agree.



From my posted link:

But Sweden’s strategy didn’t entail a total return to normalcy. The Swedish government implemented a ban on gatherings of 50 people or more, and many Swedes voluntarily followed social distancing guidelines.

Former FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb noted in an op-ed published on Aug. 30 that in addition to being much larger than Sweden (a country with a population the same size as North Carolina’s), the U.S. has a high rate of citizens with preexisting conditions, which can lead to a higher rate of COVID-19 complications; about 10 percent of Americans have diabetes, and 40 percent are considered obese.

Moreover, Sweden’s pursuit of natural herd immunity doesn’t appear to be working. A study released in June by the country’s Health Agency showed that only 6 percent of Swedes had developed antibodies to the coronavirus — though a recent study from Sweden’s Karolinska Institute and Karolinska University Hospital suggests that immunity in Sweden may be higher than antibody tests indicate.

“We’ve seen so far 185,000 Americans die of this coronavirus with 6 million people infected,” Kass continues. “If we want to intentionally infect another 126 million Americans, that means that over 1 million more Americans would die of this virus before we infected enough people to get to any possible natural herd immunity.”

“The bottom line is, will herd immunity be the answer to this coronavirus pandemic? And the answer will be yes — but not natural herd immunity. We will get to herd immunity hopefully with the development of a safe, effective vaccine,” Kass says.

“Until we have a safe and effective vaccine that is available to the hundreds of millions of Americans that still need to be exposed and recovered from this virus, we just need to continue to do the hard work, which means wear a mask, be socially distanced from people you don’t know, wash your hands multiple times a day and listen to the science.”

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Mark, Jr., and I returned home from his college softball umpiring assignment in Florida early on the evening of Friday, March 13, 2019. We unloaded my van and then I went and filled up the tank. This afternoon I filled up the van: 7.5 months (215.2 mi) on 16.391 gal or 0.458 months per gal.

MTD, Sr.