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BillyMac Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:21pm

Pleasant Dreams ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by justacoach (Post 1037625)
You'll never know when its your last chance and you're left unfulfilled the rest of your life.

Magical things can happen here on the Forum.

Click your black patent leather Reebok Zig referee shoes together and say, "Technical foul", and the coach will be magically post T-ed up.

Do it twice and he will be magically post ejected.

Don't do it three times or unspeakable things will happen.

Sleep well my friend.

BillyMac Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:31pm

No Hesitation ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stat-Man (Post 1037621)
"Go read a rule book!".

Nasty.

Along with the F word, this has got to be an almost automatic technical foul for all but the thickest skinned among us.

MOVBlue Sun Feb 16, 2020 02:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1037602)


It did -- had one the very next day..... I should've kept quiet lol -- had to open my big mouth. LOL

Rich1 Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:58pm

You got em, use em...
 
Playing a whole game without fouling someone usually means you didn't play tough defense. Going a whole season without Teching someone usually means _______________!

A) You don't work very many games
B) You are new and afraid to blow the whistle
C) You are very experienced and know how to diffuse things quickly
D) You have been around but are probably too passive to be a ref
E) You are lucky enough to only have games in which every player and coach is perfect

Raymond Tue Feb 18, 2020 02:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich1 (Post 1037688)
Playing a whole game without fouling someone usually means you didn't play tough defense. Going a whole season without Teching someone usually means _______________!

...
C) You are very experienced and know how to diffuse things quickly
...

Calling a T is often the tool to diffuse things quickly.

JRutledge Tue Feb 18, 2020 04:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich1 (Post 1037688)
Playing a whole game without fouling someone usually means you didn't play tough defense. Going a whole season without Teching someone usually means _______________!

A) You don't work very many games
B) You are new and afraid to blow the whistle
C) You are very experienced and know how to diffuse things quickly
D) You have been around but are probably too passive to be a ref
E) You are lucky enough to only have games in which every player and coach is perfect

All of the above. ;)

Peace

BillyMac Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:49am

Greatest Generation ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich1 (Post 1037688)
You got em, use em.

Reminds me of my Dad's World War II refrain, "Smoke 'em if you got 'em".

robbie Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1037598)
Blue 1 attempts a layup (in the act) with two minutes left in a tie game. White 1 (with a linebacker build) slams into Blue 1 while attempting to prevent the shot. Ball doesn't go in, Blue 1 crashes to the floor and rolls over.

I'm the lead and immediately come up with the intentional foul signal (crossed arms) and add our local excessive contact signal (arms and fists down to side) and verbalize such. I report the foul to the table with the same signals and verbiage, and back away to the trail opposite table to help administer.

White coach yells that it isn't an intentional foul. I walk across the court to calmly explain to him that since there was excessive contact, by rule, it was an intentional foul. He continues to complain that it wasn't an intentional foul. I ask him, "Was there excessive contact?", he replies that there was. I tell him that excessive contact, by rule, is an intentional foul. He says, "That's wrong". I tell him, "That's enough coach", and back away to my position to help administer.

Before first free throw is attempted he yells across the court "That's still wrong". Technical foul (no written warning).

Almost made it through the entire season without charging a technical foul to a coach (not even a written warning), or a player.

Stupid middle school coach. He wasn't arguing about the excessiveness of the contact (he actually agreed with me that it was excessive), he was arguing a rule interpretation, and one doesn't do that with BillyMac by yelling across a crowded gym, especially after I took the time to calmly explain it to him.

Stupid middle school coach.

Wow!!
I read your post and thought "what a clown." You - not the coach.
THEN I read your signature - John 3:16.
Wow - what a clown....

OK, the coach didn't know the rule.
OK, your a hero and gave a T.
Where in this scenario does the coach show to be "stupid?
Where on this planet does the coach deserve to be called a "Stupid middle school coach?"

In my never to be too humble opinion, very poor judgement to have posted this....

BillyMac Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:21pm

I Fought The Law And The Law Won (Bobby Fuller Four, 1966) ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robbie (Post 1037707)
Where on this planet does the coach deserve to be called a "Stupid middle school coach?"

I probably should have called him an ignorant middle school coach, ignorant of the rules.

But he was probably a little stupid also, stupid in that in a tied game with two minutes to go, he chose to die on this hill.

He got two free shots at me, one when I was in the reporting area, and one before I crossed back over to calmly discuss it with him.

Did he really think he was going to change my mind by yelling at me from across the gym?

He wanted his opponents to shoot two free throws by the fouled player with rebounders.

If he hadn't yelled at me from across the gym, his opponents would have gotten two free throws by the fouled player and the ball back on their endline.

Instead his opponents got four free throws, two by their best free throw shooter, and then his opponents got the ball back at the division line (and his school district athletic director got an unsporting game report the next day).

Testing his rules knowledge a third time (after I calmly discussed it with him) against a forty year veteran official on a very basic call (excessive contact equals two free throws and the ball), with the game on the line, tied with two minutes to go?

And doing it by yelling across the gym?

He fought the law and the law won.

And yet, he expected a different outcome.

A miscalculation?

Sharpest tool in the shed?

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crosscountry55 Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbie (Post 1037707)
Wow!!

I read your post and thought "what a clown." You - not the coach.

THEN I read your signature - John 3:16.

Wow - what a clown....



OK, the coach didn't know the rule.

OK, your a hero and gave a T.

Where in this scenario does the coach show to be "stupid?

Where on this planet does the coach deserve to be called a "Stupid middle school coach?"



In my never to be too humble opinion, very poor judgement to have posted this....



Your sanctimony is noted, sir.


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Raymond Wed Feb 19, 2020 02:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1037598)
...

Before first free throw is attempted he yells across the court "That's still wrong". Technical foul (no written warning).

...

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbie (Post 1037707)
Wow!!

OK, your a hero and gave a T.
...

Rather obvious and easy technical foul to call. I doubt anybody would think they are a hero for calling one in this situation.

And coaches should not being arguing rules with officials. Coaches who choose to argue rules they don't have the slightest clue about are being jerks. I don't even allow the back-and-forth, I shut it down immediately.

justacoach Wed Feb 19, 2020 02:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbie (Post 1037707)
Wow!!
I read your post and thought "what a clown." You - not the coach.
THEN I read your signature - John 3:16.
Wow - what a clown....

OK, the coach didn't know the rule.
OK, your a hero and gave a T.
Where in this scenario does the coach show to be "stupid?
Where on this planet does the coach deserve to be called a "Stupid middle school coach?"

In my never to be too humble opinion, very poor judgement to have posted this....

You must not come 'round here much, bud.
Proud of that 'tude hanging from your sleeve?


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