back court?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bbman

Fed rules:
A1 inbounds from under his own basket. Inbound pass on the fly is tipped by A2 (who is in front court), ball then goes back court and is retrieved by A2. (No other players involved.)
Back court or not?
Thanks in advance.

NFHS Basketball 2017-18 Interpretations

SITUATION 12: A1 has the ball for an end-line throw-in in his/her frontcourt. A1’s pass to A2, who is in the frontcourt standing near the division line, is high and deflects off A2’s hand and goes into Team A’s backcourt. A2 is then the first to control the ball in Team A’s backcourt. RULING: Legal. There is no backcourt violation since player control and team control had not yet been established in Team A’s frontcourt before the ball went into Team A’s backcourt. The throw-in ends when A2 legally touches the ball, but the backcourt count does not start until A2 gains control in his/her backcourt. (4-12-2, 9-9)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

NFHS Basketball 2017-18 Interpretations
SITUATION 12: A1 has the ball for an end-line throw-in in his/her frontcourt. A1’s pass to A2, who is in the frontcourt standing near the division line, is high and deflects off A2’s hand and goes into Team A’s backcourt. A2 is then the first to control the ball in Team A’s backcourt. RULING: Legal. There is no backcourt violation since player control and team control had not yet been established in Team A’s frontcourt before the ball went into Team A’s backcourt. The throw-in ends when A2 legally touches the ball, but the backcourt count does not start until A2 gains control in his/her backcourt. (4-12-2, 9-9)

Nice citation Nevadaref.

During a throwin, even under a team’s own basket, if the throwin is deflected, tipped, or batted, by an offensive player in the frontcourt to an offensive player in the backcourt; or after a missed field goal attempt, or a missed foul shot attempt, if the ball is deflected, tipped, or batted, by an offensive player in the frontcourt to an offensive player in the backcourt; these are not backcourt violations.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Nice citation Nevadaref.



During a throwin, even under a team’s own basket, if the throwin is deflected, tipped, or batted, by an offensive player in the frontcourt to an offensive player in the backcourt; or after a missed field goal attempt, or a missed foul shot attempt, if the ball is deflected, tipped, or batted, by an offensive player in the frontcourt to an offensive player in the backcourt; these are not backcourt violations.

I wish people would quit referring to the location of the throw-in, it has absolutely nothing to do with the pertinent facts of the play.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bbman

A1 inbounds from under his own basket. Inbound pass on the fly is tipped by A2 (who is in front court), ball then goes back court and is retrieved by A2.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Was team control established by airborne player who lands with one or both feet in the backcourt from a jump ball, steal, or on a throwin?

Originally Posted by BillyMac

During a throwin, or jump ball, any player; or a defensive player, in making a steal; may legally jump from his, or her, frontcourt, secure control of the ball with both feet off the floor, and return to the floor with one, or both, feet in the backcourt. The player may make a normal landing, and it makes no difference whether the first foot down is in the frontcourt, or the backcourt. These three situations are not backcourt violations.

Originally Posted by Raymond

I wish people would quit referring to the locationof the throw-in, it has absolutely nothing to do with the pertinent facts of the play.

I was expounding upon bbman and Camron Rust's posts.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I was expounding upon bbman and Camron Rust's posts.

I know. I think the inclusion of that information contributes to the confusion. My first response always is the throw-in location is irrelevant to any rulings.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

… the throw-in location is irrelevant to any rulings.

While all good officials know that, ignorant fans are more likely to comment when a throwin comes from the frontcourt endline (deflected or not) than when it comes from the frontcourt sideline (deflected or not). Many parent fans have seen their kids play in elementary school age recreation leagues where no back court pressure is allowed and coaches instruct their players, on frontcourt sideline throwins, to inbound the ball into the backcourt to avoid defensive pressure.

This is a public forum, and while we may not have a lot of fan posters, I'm sure that we probably have more than just a few fan observers who end up here after an internet search basketball rule question.

And, unfortunately there are a few officials out there who don't know if the basketball is stuffed or inflated.

[scrounge]

Originally Posted by Raymond

... the throw-in location is irrelevant to any rulings.

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Originally Posted by BillyMac

While all good officials know that, ignorant fans are more likely to comment when a throwin comes from the frontcourt endline (deflected or not) than when it comes from the frontcourt sideline (deflected or not)....

Not just fans. This exact situation happened to me last weekend in a JV game. I was T, A has a throw-in from their frontcourt endline, girl passes the ball to A2 in the frontcourt, who tips it and the ball goes into the backcourt. A2 then retrieves and I do nothing. All of a sudden, the L from the endline blows the whistle and calls the backcourt violation. I admit, I wasn't 100% sure but upon conferring I said there was no possession so no violation but L and C were adamant, so we stuck with the call. In the locker room after the game, the varsity officials who were there agreed with them, with one essentially castigating me for not getting it.