You make the call -- Middle school game

[Jl123]

What's the right call to make here? Foul or no-call? If foul, on whom? This is a middle school game.

https://youtu.be/rtLxP5khJHs

Thanks!

[Raymond]

Hard to see. I'm thinking there's an armbar of some type by the defender.

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[bucky]

Video is too short/fast for me to judge what screener is doing. Either illegal screen or foul on defense

[Camron Rust]

The defender's leg clipped the side of the screener. As the defender was stumbling her arm was in the back of the dribbler resulting in the dribbler going down.

The screen looked legal. You could possibly make the argument that it didn't give enough time & distance given that it was set on a moving opponent, but that isn't an absolute.

In the end, it looks like a defensive push, albeit unintentional, but a foul nonetheless.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Yeah the screener might have her left elbow extended. If so, illegal screen. If not, probably a foul by the defender.

Or the screener's legs might be too wide.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

You could argue by HS rules the legs are wider than shoulder width and therefore illegal but I would not be calling legs based on viewing the video we have.

It's hard to make any call based on viewing the video we have.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

True, but based on seeing the video from the angle we have I can safely eliminate the legs from being a consideration.

I can't figure out how to upload a picture, but I captured the action at the moment of contact -- and it looks like *it could be* a lean / knee out / legs too wide to me. I recognize that different people will have different interpretations.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I can't figure out how to upload a picture, but I captured the action at the moment of contact -- and it looks like *it could be* a lean / knee out / legs too wide to me. I recognize that different people will have different interpretations.

Yes, it could be....it is inconclusive. But, what isn't inconclusive to me is that, after that, the defender push the dribbler down. If it wasn't an illegal screen, it should have been a defensive foul.