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Old Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:21pm
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Foul after made basket

A1 makes a basket and as the ball is coming through the net and hits the floor and before B1 has the ball for the throw in, A2 bumps into B2 and B2 hits the ground.

Is this considered a Common foul or a dead ball contact Tech?

Is it a dead ball period after the made basket but before the throw in?

NFHS and NCAA W rules...

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Old Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:38pm
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Possible Dead Ball Contact Technical Foul ...

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A1 makes a basket and as the ball is coming through the net and hits the floor and before B1 has the ball for the throw in, A2 bumps into B2 and B2 hits the ground.
It's a dead ball so ignore contact unless it's intentional or flagrant, in which case it would be a dead ball contact technical foul.

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6-1-2-B: The ball becomes live when: On a throw-in, it is at the disposal of the thrower.

6-7-1: The ball becomes dead, or remains dead, when: A goal is made.

4-19-Note: Contact after the ball has become dead is incidental unless it is
ruled intentional or flagrant or is committed by or on an airborne shooter.

4-19-5-C: A technical foul is: An intentional or flagrant contact foul while the ball is dead, except
a foul by an airborne shooter.
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Old Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:39pm
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Dead ball once the ball is through the net. It remains dead until the throw-in begins (typically when B has the ball and is OOB for a throwin).

The contact during this interval can not be personal. If it is such that during a live ball it would have intentional or flagrant, then you call a technical. If it does not rise to that level, it is ignored.
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Old Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:51pm
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NCAA W rules...

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Personal foul under NCAAW. I agree with the above (ignored or T) for NFHS.
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Old Thu Jan 16, 2020, 02:22pm
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Technical Foul ...

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It's a dead ball so ignore contact unless it's intentional or flagrant, in which case it would be a dead ball contact technical foul.
NFHS: If you do choose to rule an intentional foul, or a flagrant foul, it would be a dead ball contact technical foul, and remember that it's a technical foul so any player on the Team B can shoot the two free throw for the technical and the throwin is made by Team B at the division line opposite the table (even if it's ruled an intentional foul).
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Old Thu Jan 16, 2020, 03:02pm
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A1 makes a basket and as the ball is coming through the net and hits the floor and before B1 has the ball for the throw in, A2 bumps into B2 and B2 hits the ground.

Is this considered a Common foul or a dead ball contact Tech?

Is it a dead ball period after the made basket but before the throw in?

NFHS and NCAA W rules...

Thanks!
Was the bump accidental? Was the contact severe or excessive?
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Old Thu Jan 16, 2020, 04:11pm
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When the ball is dead you can never have a personal foul (with one rare exception) under NFHS (or NCAA-M, for completeness' sake).
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Old Thu Jan 16, 2020, 05:49pm
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When the ball is dead you can never have a personal foul (with one rare exception) under NFHS ...
I'm intrigued. Go on ...
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Old Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:16pm
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Foul on or against an airborne shooter after a goaltend or basket interference.

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Old Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:31pm
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Foul on or against an airborne shooter after a goaltend or basket interference.

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Simpler than that.

Foul on or against an airborne shooter after the ball is dead (for whatever reason). You have a dead ball with an airborne shooter for at least a moment on almost all successful dunks.
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Old Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:43pm
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Simpler than that.

Foul on or against an airborne shooter after the ball is dead (for whatever reason). You have a dead ball with an airborne shooter for at least a moment on almost all successful dunks.
True. I just threw out the first thing immediately came to mine

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With Rare Exception ...

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Foul on or against an airborne shooter after a goaltend or basket interference.
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Foul on or against an airborne shooter after the ball is dead (for whatever reason). You have a dead ball with an airborne shooter for at least a moment on almost all successful dunks.
I thought it had something to do with an airborne shooter, but I couldn't pull the trigger.

Here are two more "rare exception" situations:

A player must be holding the ball (with rare exception) in order to travel.

A player who has been replaced, or directed to leave the game, shall not reenter (with rare exception) before the next opportunity to substitute after the clock has been started properly following his, or her, replacement.
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Old Thu Jan 23, 2020, 01:33pm
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I'll Take Rare Exceptions for $200 Alex ...

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Here are two more "rare exception" situations:

A player must be holding the ball (with rare exception) in order to travel.

A player who has been replaced, or directed to leave the game, shall not reenter (with rare exception) before the next opportunity to substitute after the clock has been started properly following his, or her, replacement.
I didn't think that is was necessary for me to put these in the form of a question.

Anybody know either, or both, of these "rare exception" situations?

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Old Thu Jan 23, 2020, 01:47pm
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I didn't think that is was necessary for me to put these in the form of a question.

Anybody know either, or both, of these "rare exception" situations?

First correct answers will be rewarded handsomely.
I thought we covered the OP's scenario between my specific example and Camron's broader response?

Why would we be assuming you're giving us a test? I thought you were providing examples of "rare exceptions" unrelated to the OP's question. Are you saying you were asking us because you didn't know, but you forgot the question marks? Or are we testing on the definition of "rare exception"?

You've left me confused again.

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You've left me confused again.
Just a little quiz for fun (and the continued education of Forum young'uns).

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