0 and 00 and more

[ilyazhito]

Statistical software cannot distinguish between 0 and 00. Surprisingly enough, scoreboards can distinguish between someone wearing 0 and 00.

In that regard, I would allow numbers 6 and greater, as long as there is a systematic way of signaling them (either turning the hand sideways, like lacrosse, or showing the tens digit, followed by the ones digit, each with both hands if necessary, like FIBA).

[Indianaref]

2008-09 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations
SITUATION 2: A team has members with No. 0 and No. 00 listed in the scorebook and it is discovered (a) with 14 minutes on the clock prior to the game, (b) with 8 minutes on the clock prior to the game or (c) after the game starts. RULING: In (a), changes can be made without penalty. In (b), if a number is changed in the scorebook, a team technical is charged. The offended team is awarded two free throws and a throw-in at the division line to begin the game. The arrow is toward the offending team. If no changes are made to the scorebook, no infraction has occurred. In (c), after the game starts, there is no infraction if only one of the team members (No. 0 or No. 00) participates. If the second team member wishes to participate, the result is an illegal number when "discovered." The penalty is a direct technical foul on the head coach for an illegal uniform. Two free throws and a division line throw-in for the offended team and loss of coaching box privileges for the offending coach. The second team member (with the illegal uniform number) may participate without further penalty and is NOT required to change his/her number. Another possibility exists after the game starts when one of the team members wants to change his/her number prior to participating. The result is a team technical foul (no loss of coaching box) for changing the scorebook. COMMENT: No team should have both No. 0 and No. 00 on its regular roster. The infraction is likely due to bringing a player up or down a level. Therefore, it is possible the team has access to other legal uniforms to replace a uniform with an illegal number. (3-4-3d; 10-1-2; 10-5-4)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

2008-09 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations
SITUATION 2: A team has members with No. 0 and No. 00 listed in the scorebook and it is discovered (a) with 14 minutes on the clock prior to the game, (b) with 8 minutes on the clock prior to the game or (c) after the game starts. RULING: In (a), changes can be made without penalty. In (b), if a number is changed in the scorebook, a team technical is charged. The offended team is awarded two free throws and a throw-in at the division line to begin the game. The arrow is toward the offending team. If no changes are made to the scorebook, no infraction has occurred. In (c), after the game starts, there is no infraction if only one of the team members (No. 0 or No. 00) participates. If the second team member wishes to participate, the result is an illegal number when "discovered." The penalty is a direct technical foul on the head coach for an illegal uniform. Two free throws and a division line throw-in for the offended team and loss of coaching box privileges for the offending coach. The second team member (with the illegal uniform number) may participate without further penalty and is NOT required to change his/her number. Another possibility exists after the game starts when one of the team members wants to change his/her number prior to participating. The result is a team technical foul (no loss of coaching box) for changing the scorebook. COMMENT: No team should have both No. 0 and No. 00 on its regular roster. The infraction is likely due to bringing a player up or down a level. Therefore, it is possible the team has access to other legal uniforms to replace a uniform with an illegal number. (3-4-3d; 10-1-2; 10-5-4)

Thanks Indianaref.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Thanks Indianaref.

That interp does not mesh with the rules. I disagreed with it back then and still do today. Neither 0 nor 00 are illegal numbers. Both are clearly listed as legal numbers in the rules book. The only prohibition is on the team list having both.

There is absolutely no requirement that any team member participate. The rule solely states that the team list cannot include both numbers.

[jmwking]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

Statistical software cannot distinguish between 0 and 00. Surprisingly enough, scoreboards can distinguish between someone wearing 0 and 00.

In that regard, I would allow numbers 6 and greater, as long as there is a systematic way of signaling them (either turning the hand sideways, like lacrosse, or showing the tens digit, followed by the ones digit, each with both hands if necessary, like FIBA).

Blame bad programmers who think a number on a jersey should be treated as a number instead of a character - 'cause, well, Magic and Jordan together are equal to Mutombo...

[Altor]

Originally Posted by jmwking

Blame bad programmers who think a number on a jersey should be treated as a number instead of a character

I had typed up something like this twice before deleting it twice. Since the thread has already been hijacked, I guess it doesn't matter anymore.

Seriously, what arithmetic operations are we planning to do with jersey numbers?

[Valley Man]

Man this helps make a dumb question SIMPLE

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Altor

Seriously, what arithmetic operations are we planning to do with jersey numbers?

Prop bets.