AirPods??

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Good point.

Previous to the unannounced change, by rule, if an overly cautious official beckoned a coach, who didn't come onto the court, and the player was immediately ready to play, the team could be charged with a timeout or have to replace the player (again, by rule, not by practice).

But now, by a literal reading, if the coach comes out but is not beckoned, the conditions are not met to remove the player.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

But now, by a literal reading, if the coach comes out but is not beckoned, the conditions are not met to remove the player.

Another good point.

It's not a NFHS rule, or interpretation, but we've been told locally that in the case of player going down, if we see the coach coming, we're to start beckoning.

If questioned by the opposing coach, we're to say, "He was beckoned".

In the case of a possible injury, we want the coach out there, and don't want him hesitating because he's afraid of a technical foul.

That would not be a good look for us since one reason why we're out there is for player safety.

10-5-2: Bench personnel, including the head coach, shall not: Enter the court unless by permission of an official to attend an injured player.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Another good point.

It's not a NFHS rule, or interpretation, but we've been told locally that in the case of player going down, if we see the coach coming, we're to start beckoning.

If questioned by the opposing coach, we're to say, "He was beckoned".

In the case of a possible injury, we want the coach out there, and don't want him hesitating because he's afraid of a technical foul.

That would not be a good look for us since one reason why we're out there is for player safety.

10-5-2: Bench personnel, including the head coach, shall not: Enter the court unless by permission of an official to attend an injured player.

See case 3.3.6 Sit B. If coach rushes onto court without being beckoned, player, even if OK, still has to leave game.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bucky

See case 3.3.6 Sit B. If coach rushes onto court without being beckoned, player, even if OK, still has to leave game.

Agree (I don't think that I stated otherwise), however with the unannounced rule change the opposite is no longer true (by rule if not by practice), if the coach was beckoned and didn't come out the rulebook (before the unannounced rule change) stated that the player would still have to come out, or sit a tick, due to the word "or" in the old rule.

My quote in bucky's post was in regard to technical fouls in such situations.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

But now, by a literal reading, if the coach comes out but is not beckoned, the conditions are not met to remove the player.

Originally Posted by bucky

See case 3.3.6 Sit B. If coach rushes onto court without being beckoned, player, even if OK, still has to leave game.

3.3.6 SITUATION B: A1 appears to be injured and an official properly halts play and the Team A coach rushes onto the court to check A1. However, A1 is OK and seems ready to play within a few seconds. RULING: A1 must be removed as the coach came onto the court. A1 may remain in the game if the coach does not come on the court and A1 is ready to play immediately. If the coach or other bench personnel have come onto the court, the player must be replaced. There is no set amount of time as to what is “immediately,” but it should not involve more than a few seconds and it must be without the coach, athletic trainer or doctor being beckoned and/or entering the court. The coach may also request a time-out to keep the player in the game provided the replacement interval for the substitution has not begun. (10-4-2)

Note that the situation does not say that the coach is beckoned.

[Bos8]

Random Question- Would bench personnel be allowed to wear headphones? I was at a NFHS game where the assistant coach had headphones in, is that permissible?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Bos8

Random Question- Would bench personnel be allowed to wear headphones? I was at a NFHS game where the assistant coach had headphones in, is that permissible?

Interesting question. Many of us allow kids with jewelry (a safety concern) to sit on the bench, why not headphones (also a safety concern)?

[onetime1]

Coach I am going to have to tell you to take your air pods out of your ears while sitting on the bench watching the game..Coach responds with and WHY? I believe them to be a big time danger to you as i do not want you to contract tinnitus. It is for your own good.

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by Bos8

Random Question- Would bench personnel be allowed to wear headphones? I was at a NFHS game where the assistant coach had headphones in, is that permissible?

No as it's a communication device

[LRZ]

Rule 1-19: "The use of electronic devices is permitted during the game."

Rule 10-1-3: A team must not "use a megaphone or any electronic communication device, or electronic equipment for voice communication with players on the court, or use electronic audio and/or video devices to review a decision of the contest officials." [My emphases.]

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

No as it's a communication device

If a coach is wearing a tin foil hat, I don't care who he's communicating with, I'm not telling him to take it off.

Originally Posted by Bos8

Random Question- Would bench personnel be allowed to wear headphones? I was at a NFHS game where the assistant coach had headphones in, is that permissible?

If you think the coach is using the headphones as a communication device *with players on the floor (highly unlikely)*, sure. Otherwise I'd leave it alone.