Final Four: Virginia v Auburn

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by thedewed

My god, call a spade a spade. It's not like it was close whether it was a double dribble or not. Where is the uncertainty? It's not like it happened quickly. The ball hit the dribblers foot, he picks it up, and dribbles again. C has to come get that if T boots it. There's no question what happened.

Good call on the end. Anyone that wouldn't call that shouldn't be officiating, but I suppose some wouldn't.

Understanding why a play was missed isn’t the same as saying it wasn’t missed.

That is great that you think it was such an easy play. So, why weren’t you on that game?

[thedewed]

No excuse for both T and C to miss that. With T whiffing, C has to come and bail him out...or would you just prefer to not offend T, and not get it right? It's not like it was split-second, hard to make out what happened. You should have dual controls out there when the play is such that 2 officials are looking there. It can't be missed. And don't worry, I actually wanted Va to win. Beautiful basketball.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by thedewed

No excuse for both T and C to miss that. With T whiffing, C has to come and bail him out...or would you just prefer to not offend T, and not get it right? It's not like it was split-second, hard to make out what happened. You should have dual controls out there when the play is such that 2 officials are looking there. It can't be missed. And don't worry, I actually wanted Va to win. Beautiful basketball.

The C wouldn't see it. Watch the clip again.


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[thedewed]

Originally Posted by Rich

The C wouldn't see it. Watch the clip again.


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this is wrong, Sirmons is staring right at the situation, and in fact has a whistle on the foul immediately following.

This DD was basic and really clear, no quick reaction needed, no quirky rule. The more interesting call is with 19 seconds to go, when Guy almost steals the throw in, do you call the travel on Auburn? after the catch, he shuffles one foot, then picks up the other, then does a quick hop with both feet before he gets fouled.

And the other very disturbing non-call is by Sirmons on that last, fairly obvious foul on the 3 point shot. Shooter is actually displaced, in the air, before the shot. Isn't that trail's primary call? Thank goodness L is there. L also had a nice pass on the inside shot Jerome was whining about with a few minutes to go, where the defender, maybe Harper, swiped and did get ball.

There was also a basket interference call or goal tending that was phantom against Va with a few minutes to go. AU had gotten the rebound, but still, there was nothing there.

[JRutledge]

Well, I worked the biggest game in my state. I can tell you that every call was thought out and if I had not clearly seen this play, I would have gotten it, but I would not necessarily know that I would see this as clearly as slow motion. So when I hear officials say, "I would have seen this," give me a break. This is the biggest game of their lives and all of a sudden these situations are always seen clearly. It is one thing when you are calling a game in the middle of the season and hardly anyone cares, but it is another when the game has all the eyes and the coverage you never have during the season.

It was a miss. It is not the end of the world. There was more to play for after that play and that play was called correct by an official coming out of his primary.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Excellent review of the plays at the end here: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/lastsec...010450747.html

Unfortunately, not all Auburn personnel and supporters behaved with as much class as Charles after the game.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It was a miss. It is not the end of the world. There was more to play for after that play and that play was called correct by an official coming out of his primary.

You are correct and I meant to inquire about this earlier. Does anyone have video or a still photo showing the Trail, Doug Sirmons, on the final VA possession? I’m curious if he also called this foul or left it to the Lead because it is the Trail’s primary as you mention.

[Nevadaref]

Highlight clips of the final VA possession seem to show the T merely indicating a 3pt attempt, but not calling a foul.