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Old Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:34pm
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Agree - thought it should of been an F1.

They said they called it a T which is why anyone was allowed to shoot the free throws.

I don't agree with the ruling.
Do we definitively what it was called? F1 or T?
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Old Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:57pm
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Do we definitively what it was called? F1 or T?
A technical was actually called. It was said so by on the broadcast after the game and apparently, that came from JD Collins according to Steretore.

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Old Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:15pm
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A technical was actually called. It was said so by on the broadcast after the game and apparently, that came from JD Collins according to Steretore.

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That’s what I thought...then why was it inbounded at the spot of the foul? Is that the NCAA rule or did they err at the inbound spot? That confused me.
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Old Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:19pm
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That’s what I thought...then why was it inbounded at the spot of the foul? Is that the NCAA rule or did they err at the inbound spot? That confused me.
The spot of the foul and the POI are the exact same in this situation. Only dead ball contact and flagrant 2 T’s go to the division line.
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Old Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:20pm
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A technical was actually called. It was said so by on the broadcast after the game and apparently, that came from JD Collins according to Steretore.

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Then they erred in giving two FTs.
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Old Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:11pm
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They either erred giving two shots for a Class B or a Flagrant 1 with the wrong shooter. I didn’t see any of the refs come over to the table and explain — does anyone know if they did?
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Old Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:34pm
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... I didn’t see any of the refs come over to the table and explain — does anyone know if they did?
They did, and you could hear the explanation to the broadcast team straight from the horse's mouth. Audio clear as day on TV. A flagrant 1 for contact with the thrower.

And then the thrower did not attempt the FTs
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Old Sun Mar 31, 2019, 12:29am
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If he was blocked out lead should be over there to help with how much was going on.


According to the ESPN play by play it was ruled a Technical. Either way they administered it incorrect.
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Old Sun Mar 31, 2019, 12:32am
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He may be one of the top officials. But by the looks of his head he's ball watching. But you should know where to look and what to look for. Goes back to the GU vs UNC Championship game when his hand was OOB. This stuff should be a huge point of emphasis in training so they quit missing the biggest calls of the game.
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Old Sun Mar 31, 2019, 12:57am
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They did, and you could hear the explanation to the broadcast team straight from the horse's mouth. Audio clear as day on TV. A flagrant 1 for contact with the thrower.

And then the thrower did not attempt the FTs
That's what I thought. Strange that even with an alternate watching the tape they got it wrong. In my mind this is a bigger miss than the foot on the line.

In case anyone is curious it was a 3 point game at the time of the F1 foul and here's difference in FT shooter:

Supposed to shoot: Matt Mooney, 76.5% on 2.3 attempts/game this season

Actually shot: Davide Moretti, 92.1% on 2.9 attempts/game this season

Fun but irrelevant fact: Davide Moretti was #2 in all of college basketball this season in FT%.
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Old Sun Mar 31, 2019, 02:56am
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That's what I thought. Strange that even with an alternate watching the tape they got it wrong. In my mind this is a bigger miss than the foot on the line.

In case anyone is curious it was a 3 point game at the time of the F1 foul and here's difference in FT shooter:

Supposed to shoot: Matt Mooney, 76.5% on 2.3 attempts/game this season

Actually shot: Davide Moretti, 92.1% on 2.9 attempts/game this season


Yes, this miss will probably cost all of them an advancement.

First, it should have been an F1, not a T, with the thrower shooting. But even if you go with the T, thinking the ball was hit instead of the arm, it was administered incorrectly.

And I would not put this on the player. This is probably the first time in their playing careers that this has happened. They shouldn't be expected to know who is supposed to shoot on this. It is entirely possible that they thought it was a T and sent their best player to shoot what they thought was a T.

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Fun but irrelevant fact: Davide Moretti was #2 in all of college basketball this season in FT%.
While acknowledging your point, that is not entirely accurate. I do see the same NCAA stats that you're probably looking at showing that, but it is incorrect. The #1 player on the list is listed at 92.4% on 73 of 79. Tyler Herro of Kentucky is at 93.5% on 87 for 93 and isn't even on the list. (Tyler Herro Stats, News, Bio | ESPN)

The NCAA list is missing some data.
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