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Old Wed Jan 30, 2019, 10:29pm
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I know. You and I have certainly had our disagreements and i've deserved to have some things deleted here, but this is just plain silly. It was a simple discussion of what a rule meant. He said I was wrong and promptly deleted everything I said so no one else would see it and have a chance to agree with it.

If one of them were the national rules editor, I might accept it. But, they're not even their state rules interpreter. Even if they were, that doesn't make their interpretation right for any other state.

Pretending to run a site for officials is only credible if you allow opposing views to be expressed.

And my point....the ball, on a throwin, doesn't become live just because a player picks up the ball. If they're not immediately in a place to execute the throwin, I'm waiting to start my count and determine the ball live until they are (assuming they're not delaying). I'm not starting my count when they pick up the ball at the FT line, leaving them only 2-3 seconds to actually make a throwin once they get OOB.
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Old Wed Jan 30, 2019, 10:31pm
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I know. You and I have certainly had our disagreements and i've deserved to have some things deleted here, but this is just plain silly. It was a simple discussion of what a rule meant. He said I was wrong and promptly deleted everything I said so no one else would see it and have a chance to agree with it.

If one of them were the national rules editor, I might accept it. But, they're not even their state rules interpreter. Even if they were, that doesn't make their interpretation right for any other state.

Pretending to run a site for officials is only credible if you allow opposing views to be expressed.


Hey, your group owner didn't throw you out of all his groups and block you so you don't even see them. Then unfriend you and block you on FB and block you on Twitter for good measure.

Wonder if we're talking about the same person?


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Old Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:09pm
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I've quit more FB groups than I currently monitor. Most cater to uninformed one- or two-word responses to a clip or a question and rulings based on consensus rather than actual rules-based responses.
Don't sweat it. They need you more than you need them. Since they don't sense that, forget 'em.
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Old Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:39am
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Hey, your group owner didn't throw you out of all his groups and block you so you don't even see them. Then unfriend you and block you on FB and block you on Twitter for good measure.

Wonder if we're talking about the same person?
Not yet. I don't mind disagreement but blocking someone over a different rule interpretation is just ridiculous.

Heck, you and I have had disagreements. And you even unfriended me. But, that didn't really bug me. We had a natural difference of opinion over something a lot more appropriate to just not talk about any more.
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Old Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:12am
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Is this the "Basketball Officials" group run by a former regular member of this site?

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Old Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:29am
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Is this the "Basketball Officials" group run by a former regular member of this site?

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Old Thu Jan 31, 2019, 09:00am
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Is this the "Basketball Officials" group run by a former regular member of this site?

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"Basketball Officials" or "Basketball Referees"?
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Old Thu Jan 31, 2019, 09:15am
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"Basketball Officials" or "Basketball Referees"?
I'll go out on a limb and say Basketball Referees.
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Old Thu Jan 31, 2019, 10:20am
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I'll go out on a limb and say Basketball Referees.
That was my assumption but wanted to clarify.
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Old Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:13pm
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"Basketball Officials" or "Basketball Referees"?
Does it really matter? There are 100 groups with the same name, but only one that has the person that is here that people do not want to mention his name as an administrator. He is the same person that tried to tell everyone what they should feel about rulings or procedures because of his experience and background. And that same person was called out here several times by folks and why he is on that site trying to bully people.

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Old Thu Jan 31, 2019, 06:17pm
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Jeff:

It may be. LOL! He banned Mark, Jr., after Mark, Jr., quoted Chapter and Verse to prove his point. He continued to tell Mark that he was wrong and Mark to exception to that and told him bluntly that either follow the Rules are stop officiating. Next thing you know Junior is banned.

I don't think I have been banned by him but he has blocked me from sending FB Messages to him. Before me started blocking my FB Messages I asked him why he didn't post here anymore and he told me that he did not want anything to do with us anymore.

And to think that were a couple of times that he and I collaborated on a couple of incorrect Struckhoof Rulings to get them corrected. I really do not know what made his attitude change.

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Old Fri Feb 01, 2019, 09:45am
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Hey, your group owner didn't throw you out of all his groups and block you so you don't even see them. Then unfriend you and block you on FB and block you on Twitter for good measure.

Wonder if we're talking about the same person?


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Well, that sounds familiar. If the same dude, and I bet it is, he threw out a mentor of mine from the HS baseball group for daring post pro video to illustrate a teaching point. There's so little video of HS baseball, but that was the burr up his ass on that day - no pro video (and the tyrant was wrong on the rule too). When my friend/mentor asked why, he got booted. This guy was a former AAA umpire who did 2 MLB spring trainings - but none of that mattered to the idiot mod.

So when I called him on it, not only did I get booted from the baseball group, but also the basketball group and two football groups, blocked from all and unable to see them! Persona non grata.

F#% him.
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Old Fri Feb 01, 2019, 09:48am
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now im curious who this person is? or is it like Voldemort, and no one can say his name.
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Old Fri Feb 01, 2019, 09:59am
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now im curious who this person is? or is it like Voldemort, and no one can say his name.
If not his name, what is the actual fb page called or how does one access it? I'm barely active on fb but I am now curious about the site.
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Old Fri Feb 01, 2019, 10:34am
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now im curious who this person is? or is it like Voldemort, and no one can say his name.
BktBallRef is his name here. Tony H is his real name (I did not print his last name in full).

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