I'm surprised that people seem to be arguing semantics, not necessarily the merits of the call that I made. It was on Trail's side of the lane, but still in an area where L, T, and C coverage could overlap. Lead had no call, but he was probably either screened or looking at lower bodies. I believe that I did the right thing by waiting for the T to make the call, followed by a cadence whistle and selling the call. What would y'all have done in this situation?
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My original criticism could have easily been handled by, "I meant to say arm, not hand". End of story. But it's not too late, it can still have a happy ending. The purpose of my comment was to clarify for all that (in layman's terms) the hand is considered to be a part of the ball. It is legal use of hands to accidentally hit the hand of the opponent when it is in contact with the ball. This includes holding, dribbling, passing, or even during a shot attempt. Striking a ball handler, or a shooter, on that player's hand (in contact with the ball) that is incidental to an attempt to play the ball is not a foul. |
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He referenced the contact 5 different times. The first time, generically he typed "hand". The other 4 times he clearly indicated the contact was to the arm. So you cherry-picked one statement simply so you could post a Ginger Rogers video. That stuff gets annoying. |
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End it now. Contact on hand? Or, contact on arm? Say the right word and this will all go away. Quote:
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If you think something needs to be clarified, either clarify it yourself without misrepresenting the original quote or ask an on-point question without all the circular nonsense that makes some of your posts impossible to digest. And please quit using the excuse that "somebody" needs clarification. Allow the adults in this forum to speak for themselves, we don't need an advocate. |
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YOU are the only one fixated on that one sentence. Anybody else here trying to learn about staying in or straying from their primary read his DETAILED description of the play, which consistently referenced contact to the arm. Maybe he is not interested in YOU shoving YOUR teaching lesson down his throat. If YOU want to clarify for "those who don't know what they don't know", then write your clarification and move on. Instead we get the repetitive posts waiting for his answer (posts that are also disingenuous on your part since you type them in a manner pretending that you don't know the proper rule or verbiage). |
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If it's the former, I will withdraw my criticism. If it's the later, we can further discuss this topic. I don't know which it is? He can easily answer this, and put it to bed for good. Or he can just lay low and keep me wondering. That's also certainly acceptable. |
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Again, how do you know he doesn't have you on "ignore"? |
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I'm not a big fan of a passive aggressive style, sometimes I don't understand it, or don't even know that it's happening. If anything, I'm always polite. Which is why I'm upset with myself at my recent sarcastic post. And to make it worse, I was quite proud of my witty post after clicking save. Again, I'm sorry. |
Billy, I edited the OP to say arm. I meant "the part of the forearm closer to the wrist", but I don't know if people consider the area where forearm and wrist meet hand or arm. This is the officiating forum, not doctors or anatomy and physiology forum.
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At least now nonofficials who may not be Forum members and who may have a question about hand/part of ball (layman's terms) may have a better chance of finding the answer when they use the Google to search. https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.w...=0&w=300&h=300 |
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