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Small circle within center circle
Is anyone familiar with why some basketball courts have a smaller circle (~2ft in diameter) within the center restraining circle? Is there a non-NFHS reason, perhaps?
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My memory may be faulty (and I don't have access to MTD's attic to look through his archives), but I seem to recall, years ago, the jumpers had to have one foot in the smaller circle.
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I think that’s it. If you see this feature, it is a relic of a bygone era. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Other relics of a bygone era?
How 'bout: 28' marks, segmented semi-circle within the lanes completing the antiquated jump circles, other? me |
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This is where MTD and BillyMac enter the conversation and talk about the old narrow lane. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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And that's for courts 84' or longer. Those shorter can't use that as a point of reference, though I bet there's a lot of misinformed AD's thinking so. |
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Twenty-Eight Foot Hashmark ...
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My arm's getting tired just thinking about it. The twenty-eight foot hashmark also had something to do with lack of action, but that's another story for another time. |
Who's Calling Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Antiquated ???
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Three jump ball circles, center, and at each end of the court. And lots of jump balls back then. To start each quarter, and each overtime period. Plus, anytime we go to the alternating possession arrow today, we had a jump ball back then. One could have literally dozens of jump balls in a girls subvarsity game. Yeah, it was like heaven for Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. back then. If he had his way the alternating possession arrow would be thrown in the trash and burned to a crisp. |
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Purple Girls Can't Jump ...
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Memories Of The Way We Were ...
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If instructed to "Play ball" the offense had to move the ball past the hashmarks. If the defense was responsible they had to initiate a five second closely guarded count. Not sure, but one "Play ball" warning per team per quarter, technical foul after the warning. This was the Pleistocene Epoch version of the shot clock. https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.G...=0&w=239&h=171 |
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Three of those games on a Friday night when there happened to be other things to do with classmates out on the town back at campus was pure punishment. But formative, in the long run, I guess. :) |
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This thread has been a walk down memory lane.
MTD, Sr. |
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The neutral zone marks, commonly called the blocks, along the sides of the FT lane, which used to separate the first two rebounders on each side prior to the rule change which eliminated the first lane space on each side nearest the endline. |
Arm up
Player committing a foul required to put hand up. Straight up!
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Hackers (Before There Were Hackers) ...
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I believe that it was sophomore or junior year that I alternated quarters with a teammate. I would always start, he would always finish the game. It was the only way our coach could insure that at least one of us would be available at the end of the game. I actually used a similar tactic as a coach. During a league championship season I had two power forwards who were practically interchangeable, one a veteran, one a rookie. Both were great rebounders, and fierce defenders who could do a little scoring. I usually started the veteran, after thirty-two minutes it seemed that one always fouled out and the other always had three or four fouls. |
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I remember this. This was the Rule when I played and for a number of years after I started officiating. The Rule was slightly modified after I started officiating to state the the Player was to raise only one arm and not two because some Players were raising two arms to so displeasure with the call and if a Player raised two arms it was a TF for UC.. MTD, Sr. |
Still Relevant ...
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I already know, I'm a baaaaad boy! (with apologies to Lou Costello). http://www.myvirtualofficialsassociation.com/?p=1104 Note: 2018-2019 IAABO Manual Revisions: Free Throw Coverage - Lead Official: Take a position that allows the official to observe the players in the first lane space on the nearer lane line and in the three spaces on the farther lane line. (Replaces: Free Throw Coverage - Lead Official: Back out of the free throw lane taking a position approximately four feet from nearer free throw lane line and off the court near the end line.) https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4823/...7a83ff0c_m.jpg |
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I have often wondered why the blocks are still in the court diagram, and thus why new paint jobs continue to include them. They are completely meaningless because they no longer separate anything. The lower part of the modern 1st space could just as well be a 2” hash mark like every other space mark. I guess the reason this hasn’t changed is one of pure nostalgia. There must be something romantic about “the blocks” on a basketball court. But they serve no modern purpose. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Stupid NFHS ...
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Lack of Sufficient Action Rule.
Regarding the Hash Marks 28 feet from each End Line and the Lack of Sufficient Action Rule.
Situation #1: Team A is behind in the score and has Control of the Ball in its Midcourt Area (between the Hash Marks and the Division Line). Team B is not required to come into the Midcourt Area and play defense. (NOTE: Notice that I did not use the term Closely Guarded because even though the CG Rule was adopted while the LSA Rule was still a Rule, CG is not a requirement for the Defense.) If Team A Holds (A1 Holds or Dribbles the Ball or Team A Passes the Ball between Players in the MCA) for ten seconds while Team B does not play defense in Team A's MCA The Train (Two-Person or Three-Person Crew) shall Warn Team A by moving off of the Side Line into the Team A's MCA, point toward Team A's Basket and announce to Team A to "play". As long has Team B does not come out to play defense in the MCA Team A has ten seconds (later the Rule was changed five seconds) to advance the Ball from its MCA to its Front Court Area (between the Hash Marks and the End Line). If Team A does not it shall be charged with a TF charged to Team A. Situation #2: The score is tied or Team B is behind in the score and Team A has Control of the Ball in its MCA. Team A is not required to advance the Ball from its MCA into its FCA but if Team B remains in Team A's FCA for ten seconds the Trail shall Warn Team B by moving off of the Side Line into Team A's MCA, point toward Team B's Basket and announce to Team B to "play". As long has Team A Holds the Ball in its MCA the defense has ten seconds (later five seconds) to move into Team A's MCA and play defense. If Team B does not it shall be charged with a TF. A Team only receives one LSA Warning per game and it does not matter if the Warning was given while the Team was on Offense or Defense. The Warning applies to all subsequent infractions of the LSA Rule whether the Infraction occurs while the Team is on Offense or Defense. I gave numerous Warnings in my career but I do not ever having a Team fail to heed the Warning and receive a TF. MTD, Sr. |
Clarification ...
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I hope that it wasn't too cold in your attic. Happy Thanksgiving. |
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Bill: I never went up into the attic. I wrote it all from memory because I do not have access to my attic at the moment, and there is a very faint voice in the back of my head (actually there are a lot of voices in my head, :p) that is telling me that the Warning is one per either Quarter or Half, not the Game. MTD, Sr. |
Xanax ...
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Now, where are my car keys. https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cart...on1773_low.jpg |
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4-28-2 The jump ball begins when the ball leaves the official’s hand(s) and ends when the touched ball contacts a non-jumper, an official, the floor, a basket or backboard. They could probably remove those words now as it is pretty unlikely that a jump ball tip is going to hit the ring or backboard from midcourt. |
Tap The Ball Into The Basket ...
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Posts like this are probably making Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. tear up. Hey Mark T. DeNucci, Sr., there's no crying in basketball (with apologies to Tom Hanks). |
Neutral Zones ...
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Most recent NFHS Basketball Court Diagram with two inch wide hashmarks three feet below the neutral zones is 2007-08. |
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Actually, the most recent (2017-18) NFNS Basketball Court Diagram does not show the Neutral Zone Blocks. It shows the two inch wide hash marks delineating the three Lane Spaces on each side of the Free Throw Lane, which the first lane space starting 7'-00" from the End Line. But I can remember the pre Three-Point FG Era when the first markings on the FT Lane measured from the End Line were the Neutral Zone Blocks. The NZ Blocks were 7'-00" from the End Line. The first lane space was 3'-00" wide measured from the NZ Block toward the End Line. When I played there were two, and then after I started officiating there were three more marked lane spaces. BUT, unmarked lane spaces, 3'-00" wide and 3'-00" deep, continued along the FT Lane and around the outside of the FT Circle. MTD, Sr. |
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