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Old Tue Nov 13, 2018, 09:42pm
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Does "CNC" mean correct no call? I presume that it does. Curious about a couple of items:

1) Do they acknowledge all "CNCs"? Wouldn't there be many within the last two minutes? There are many cases (like several every play) of contact where a foul is not called. I am guessing that they do not so why would they acknowledge this one? (IMO, because everyone questioned it)

2) The provided rational seems illogical. Does their explanation mean that any player can simply grab and hang onto a rim during a dead ball with no one around as long as they are not taunting or delaying the game? I am guessing not. What about say, the backboard? Could they grab the rim, pull up, and climb to the top of the backboard as long as that given criteria is met? Also, guessing not. Could they swing like a pendulum from the net for the duration of the timeout given said criteria is met? Guessing not. Ergo, the explanation is a slap in the face as far as I am concerned. Again, I know it is about money/entertainment/etc. Additionally, hanging on the rim with the same criteria has been called a T hundreds of times. What makes this play different, especially since the hang is so long?


Draymond Green (see below link) does same thing (TO called as he hangs) but gets a Technical. Also, LBJ does it and NBA confirms that it was an incorrect no call. Sooooo, it does not get more contradictory, inconsistent, and hypocritical than that. Unless of course...... something changed between then and now.

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Old Tue Nov 13, 2018, 10:30pm
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Maybe you should take all these questions to the people that actually run the NBA and the officiating program. i.e. none of us

At the end of the day, NBA officials do as they are instructed by their powers-that-be. It really is no different than what high school or college officials do, or what we all do in our full-time jobs. Yet for some reason high school officials love to bash on NBA basketball and its officials, who are the best in the world at their career.
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Old Wed Nov 14, 2018, 01:50pm
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Maybe you should take all these questions to the people that actually run the NBA and the officiating program. i.e. none of us

At the end of the day, NBA officials do as they are instructed by their powers-that-be. It really is no different than what high school or college officials do, or what we all do in our full-time jobs. Yet for some reason high school officials love to bash on NBA basketball and its officials, who are the best in the world at their career.
You act as if these questions have not been taken to those that run the NBA and the officiating program. They do not have transparency so one tends to take them elsewhere with hopes of clarification. Bashing is fun when against all hypocrites. Funny how consistency is probably a high goal for all officials (at least all of the thousands I have encountered) but yet here is a prime example of the "best in the world" being extremely inconsistent, to the point of having it documented. Sometimes being inconsistent and considered the best is not that great....wait, unless you are in that group, then it is OK.

Now, where did Billy leave his keys...
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Old Wed Nov 14, 2018, 02:06pm
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Now, where did Billy leave his keys...
They're probably with my reading glasses.

I don't have time to look for them because have to yell at the neighbor kids to get the hell off my front lawn. I haven't stored my garden hose away for the winter yet.

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Old Wed Nov 14, 2018, 02:25pm
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You act as if these questions have not been taken to those that run the NBA and the officiating program. They do not have transparency so one tends to take them elsewhere with hopes of clarification. Bashing is fun when against all hypocrites. Funny how consistency is probably a high goal for all officials (at least all of the thousands I have encountered) but yet here is a prime example of the "best in the world" being extremely inconsistent, to the point of having it documented. Sometimes being inconsistent and considered the best is not that great....wait, unless you are in that group, then it is OK.

Now, where did Billy leave his keys...
NBA refs have more accountability than anybody who posts on the board, including you and me. Bashing is petty and bullsh!t.
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Old Wed Nov 14, 2018, 02:27am
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The provided rational seems illogical.
From the NBA: The ball is dead and he is not taunting opponents or delaying the game.

Since you brought it up, the only part that I found illogical was, paraphrasing here, "It's legal because it's a dead ball", explanation. Doesn't most illegal ring grasping take place during the dead ball period immediately after a dunk?

Everything else can be logically explained as, "It's the NBA. Rules are different than in other rule sets".

I'm not looking for any further explanation, like our First Lady, I really don't care.

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Old Wed Nov 14, 2018, 01:14pm
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Does "CNC" mean correct no call?
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1) Do they acknowledge all "CNCs"? Wouldn't there be many within the last two minutes?
I would think this is where the evaluator and editor have to make decisions about what needs to be included. Putting in a bunch of "CNC - This is not traveling because the player is dribbling the ball" would not be beneficial to anybody.
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