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Ball Is Dead, And Remains Dead ...
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If that's the rule, then the L2M Report seems logical. https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.8...=0&w=203&h=163 |
Having never read the NBA rulebook in my life, but reading what ilyazhito has been saying about seemingly back-to-back sections of Rule 12-IV. This interpretation should be consistent with those rules. Unless there is another section about a player that is neither offensive nor defensive hanging on the rim, it would be logical that those two sections could only be applied during a live ball.
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Put Them Toghether ...
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As a high school basketball official, I really don't care very much about NBA rules, but as a scientist, I do care about logic. That dead ball comment from the L2M Report has been a bee in my bonnet since the original post of the L2M Report. Hopefully the bee has moved on to somebody else's bonnet. https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.D...=0&w=300&h=300 |
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He has yet to post a ruling that applies to this situation. Shoot, he didn't even know the ball never became live or that it bounded out towards the division line. |
A Brain Hiccup ...
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https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.9...=0&w=241&h=161 |
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After the made dunk shot, James (LAL) remains on the rim after the timeout is called and players have cleared the area under the rim. The ball is dead and he is not taunting or delaying the game |
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Group Effort ...
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bucky started the thread and provided the video: Quote:
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It turned out to be an interesting trip. https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.b...=0&w=240&h=181 |
Dovetailing Dead Balls ...
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The first dead ball and correct no-call for a technical foul had nothing to do with the timeout but has to do with the dead ball immediately after the successful goal. It was the timeout that prevented the ball from becoming live, continuing the status of the ball being dead, and thus the correct no-call for a technical foul. https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.7...=0&w=300&h=300 |
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Inconsistencies/Conflicts ...
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As an official, former coach, and a basketball fan, I don't like King James hanging on the ring for nine seconds, but if the NBA allows it by rule, and isn't just the interpretation of the NBA official on site that night, then there's nothing we can do about it, other than turn off the game on television (instead watch Crickey! It's the Irwins, my new favorite show), not attend the games, and not purchase anything that's advertised during the games. https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIF.A...=0&w=300&h=300 |
Apparently I missed something also. Must be written in invisible ink somewhere, this conflicting L2M.
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Here is a video from the NBA Video Rulebook about hanging on the rim. Technical Foul, player hangs on the rim | NBA Video Rulebook
The transcript says that "Players are not allowed to pull themselves up on the rim, nor are they allowed to hang on the rim following a dunk attempt, unless they are doing so to avoid injury to themselves or another player. The NBA video rulebook does not mention a dead-ball exception, nor can I find one in the PDF version of the rulebook. Thus, hanging on the rim in the NBA rules is consistent with NFHS and NCAA. Bucky may also be alluding to this video as the source of inconsistencies. If Bucky can bring up the L2M video where there should be a technical foul, we can have more of a conversation. |
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