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Pre-tip off technical foul and non-starter shoots the free throw
If there is a pre-game technical foul, such as an administrative T or for dunking during warm-ups, the shooting team has the option for a substitute, A-6, to shoot the foul shots. Does this mean, as in 3-2-2a, that A-6 has been allowed to become a starter and that he/she must start the game? Or can A-6 shoot the fouls shots and return to the bench, allowing the regular starters to start the game?
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Substitutes who become players are never required to "play a tick."
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Confucius Says ...
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In my opinion, the substituted starter (let's call him A-5) has to sit a tick. A player who has been replaced, or directed to leave the game, shall not reenter (with rare exception) before the next opportunity to substitute after the clock has been started properly following his, or her, replacement. The clock didn't start on the free throw for the technical foul. Since a player doesn't have to play a tick, A-7 can come off the bench to replace A-6, if the coach desires. "Allowing the regular starters to start the game" no longer applies because the game had already started when the ball became live for the free throw for the technical foul. Note: The "with rare exception" above applies to situations where a team, due to disqualification, or injury, would be forced to play with fewer than five players. |
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Once the FTs have been taken, there is a substitution opportunity and and A5 may come into the game. |
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Let's Get Ready To Rumble ...
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Seriously, the game started when the ball became live, when it's at the disposal of the free thrower for the first free throw for the technical foul. Designated starter A-5 has to sit a tick. Also, while I wouldn't grant a request for timeout before the ball became live when the tossed ball leaves the official’s hand during a "normal" jump ball "start" (game, or overtime), I would grant a request for a timeout in rfp's situation after the ball became live when it's at the disposal of the free thrower for the free throws for the technical foul (depending on who requests it, and when it's requested). |
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At the time A5 is changed to A6, the game hasn't started yet. Then, the FTs happen. That starts the game, not the replacement of the designated starter. A5 can be substituted into the game after the FTs since A5 is not reentering...A5 was never in. |
First Live Ball ???
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6-2-1: The game and each extra period begins when the ball becomes live as specified in 6-1-2 for a jump ball, throw-in or free throw. 3-3-4: A player who has been replaced, or directed to leave the game shall not re-enter before the next opportunity to substitute after the clock has been started properly following his/her replacement. Once the game starts, the designated starter rule longer applies. |
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First Free Throw ...
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After A-6 takes his first free throw attempt, can't A-8 replace A-6 and attempt the second free throw? And then, can't A-9 replace A-8 before the throwin? |
Legal Substitution/Replacement ...
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If A6 had been the designated starter up to 12:37 on the pregame clock and it was changed to A5 at that time, would not you allow A6 to enter the game to shoot the FTs for the T? |
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Ten Minute Mark ...
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In the original situation, A6 replaced A5, I assume after the ten minute mark, or we wouldn't be discussing this. Let's keep our discussion exclusively after the ten minute mark. A6 replaced A5. A5 by must sit a tick. That's my wavering story and I'm only sticking to it long enough for somebody to push me over the "sit a tick" cliff. |
Moving Toward The White Light ...
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