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Are the Cardinal schools the ones in Woodbridge (Gar-Field, Hylton, Freedom, Woodbridge), or are they different schools?
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Would one be in multiple college conferences because one probably wouldn't get enough games for a "full schedule" from an assigner from just one college conference?
Back when the University of Connecticut was in the Big East (otherwise known as the good old days) I could have sworn that Big East games were officiated by a small group of officials because I kept seeing the same officials several times a season, at Gampel Pavilion (Storrs UCONN campus), at the XL Center (Hartford, CT), or on the road on television. With the small number of guys that I kept on seeing over and over again, and with the large number of schools in the Big East, it seems like these guys had a pretty full schedule just the in Big East.
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One might get a full schedule, but John Clougherty, the former coordinator of the ACC, limited the amount of games that his officials could receive, ostensibly to keep them fresh, so many ACC officials would join other conferences to get games when there were gaps in their ACC schedules. The same thinking might have applied for other conferences as well.
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It's not rocket science Billy. We are INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS. Are officials supposed to sit at home and only work games on nights that a specific conference has games? When conference play begins, half the teams are on the road and half are at home. That means that conference only needs at the most 24 officials. Should the same 24 officials work every game for a particular conference? How about D2 and D3 conferences? Who should cover those games? Don't you think a D2/D3 supervisor likes it when a D1 guy is available to work?
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Well in basketball I belong to 3 different organizations in Illinois. I belong to one right now for Indiana (moved to the border a little over a year ago). All organizations are located in different areas, have different assignors that are members, have a different meeting night and have a different group of members in most cases. I joined each for different reasons as well. The one I have been a member of the longest was one of the first camps I attended this organization ran when I came to the Chicago area. We are truly independent contractors here. Associations do not assign games as it would violate laws in our state if they did so or treated us as employees. Associations here are training organizations that have networking elements to them.
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So your commissioners are not the same people as the assignors? It's interesting, because in the DC area, association commissioners are the assignors for the scholastic level, with assistant commissioners or additional commissioners assigning the subvarsity and/or recreational levels.
However, the Commissioners are not the ones in charge of the association, so maybe that allows independent contractor laws to be satisfied. The President and Executive Board run day-to-day activities in their association, and Presidents, Commissioners, and Executive Board Officers are usually elected. However, if a vacancy occurs before an election, the President may appoint a person to fill the vacancy, which is what happened recently in Board 12 when their longtime Commissioner retired a few months after being re-elected. Last edited by ilyazhito; Mon Sep 10, 2018 at 04:36pm. |
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My local association/board, is also primarily a training organization. We hire an assignment commissioner. He is an employee ($35,000.00 annual salary, one year contract) of our local association/board. We are always paid by the schools, conferences, or state, we never get paid by the local association/board. Never, ever.
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On W-9's (that most schools, including all the state technical schools, have us sign) most of us check off "Individual/sole proprietor or single-member LLC". I'm pretty sure that we are independent contractors in regard to recreation games, travel games, men's league games, etc. I'll have to check with my accounting firm, Dewey, Cheatem & Howe.
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In some areas, "assiciations" are set by the state and control almost everything in their area -- and sometimes officials can only belong to one association. In others, associations are just a group of officials who like to get together (on a more formal basis that "meet at the bar after Firday's game") and you can belong to more than one and assigning is different. In some, the state itself does all the assigning. Some have variations based on sport. There are 50 states and 52 ways of doing things. All that matters is you understand how it's done in your area (or areas if you work in multiple states). |
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Either way, to answer your question, Assignor Y has been known to give certain people 50+ games (man has a lot games). So yeah, you can have a full schedule from one college assignor. |
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