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JRutledge Tue Sep 11, 2018 05:20pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1024473)
And so you assume that every single Forum member is a veteran Forum member that has "read it all".

No, just saying that if they have been paying attention that information is already in the literature. It is in the new rulebooks and they will get much of this information on many forms.

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1024473)
No possibility that some Forum members are brand new and have only read recent posts?

Yes, it is, but they already have access to that information. Now if someone asks (and they did not) then post away. But I get your need to do things over the top, just saying they already have access to this information. I doubt this is the very first time they have heard this is on this site unless they asked. And almost everyone that commented is not a brand new person to this site.

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1024473)
No possibility that the Forum has some brand new "lurker" nonmembers (readers but not posters) who have only read recent posts?

That is also possible, but it is not those people commenting on your nonsense. IJS.

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1024473)
No thought that repetition is often one of the best pedagogical approaches to teach something and often the best way for many to learn something?

And they can reread the material they already have. ;)

Peace

BillyMac Tue Sep 11, 2018 06:06pm

Not A Big Emoji Fan ...
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1024474)
;)

Again the "Wink" emoji, so I don't really know where you're coming from.

I sounds like your guys already got the new rulebooks in Illinois/Indiana.

If my Connecticut guys don't have the new rulebooks yet, then I'm fairly certain that a few new Forum members, and a few new "lurker" non-Forum members, haven't gotten it yet either.

When I "lurked, and then joined, the Forum, I just jumped in feet first and didn't go back and read any old threads.

And you're right, they all will eventually get the new rulebooks, if they haven't already gotten it. I'm just giving them a head start.

Please note that I added a paragraph after I originally posted about this, editing after you already replied.

Please reread the edited last part of my last post.

If I've taken your post the wrong way, never mind.

Raymond Tue Sep 11, 2018 06:13pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1024477)
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Please note that I added a paragraph after I originally posted about this, editing after you already replied.

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Paragraphs. The number one reason somebody will not read a post. I'm sure a lot of folks are like me and see a very long post and just skip over it.

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BillyMac Tue Sep 11, 2018 06:17pm

Peruse ...
 
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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1024478)
Paragraphs. The number one reason somebody will not read a post. I'm sure a lot of folks are like me and see a very long post and just skip over it.

No problem here. To each his own.

Raymond Tue Sep 11, 2018 06:19pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1024479)
No problem here. To each his own.

That's just to let you know that all that writing might be going for naught. You may think going into that much detail and using that many words is attractive to somebody trying to learn, but it's not.

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BillyMac Tue Sep 11, 2018 06:22pm

New Rulebooks ...
 
I'm get a sinking feeling in my gut that Connecticut guys may be the last guys to get their new rulebooks.

deecee Tue Sep 11, 2018 06:27pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1024483)
I'm get a sinking feeling in my gut that Connecticut guys may be the last guys to get their new rulebooks.

It's just you Billy. I'm sure you're a very nice guy, but have you every though that we all have limitation?

BillyMac Tue Sep 11, 2018 06:29pm

Repost ...
 
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Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1024481)
That's just to let you know that all that writing might be going for naught.

I didn't write the 2018-19 NFHS Point of Emphasis regarding proper terminology. I just reposted it for those new members and new nonmembers who may not have seen it yet. We haven't gotten our new rulebooks yet in Connecticut and I may have been mistaken that some others didn't get their's yet.

If you've already seen the proper terminology list before, on the Forum, or in your new rulebook, then you probably passed on reading the list again, as I did.

If you hadn't seen them before, then you may have read them.

BillyMac Tue Sep 11, 2018 06:35pm

Nice Guys Finish Last ...
 
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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 1024484)
I'm sure you're a very nice guy ...

You have absolutely no way of knowing that, but thanks anyway.

(How do you know that I don't kick my cat, and that I'm not a serial killer.)

bucky Tue Sep 11, 2018 08:26pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1024486)
You have absolutely no way of knowing that, but thanks anyway.

(How do you know that I don't kick my cat, and that I'm not a serial killer.)

Because no serial killer would kick their cat.

JRutledge Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:30pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1024477)
Again the "Wink" emoji, so I don't really know where you're coming from.

I sounds like your guys already got the new rulebooks in Illinois/Indiana.

Nope. But all the stuff you posted was already on the NF website. It was already on this website. The Simplified and Illustrated Rulebook is out. The Rules by Topic are out as well. Anyone can buy them now, including the rulebooks.

But for the record, we have camps in the late spring, early summer in Illinois. Been talking about the new rules and literature since May. In Indiana, the first meetings we had for basketball were early September. Reading this site for years, it appears that is not too far off from other states as well.

You posted a bunch of stuff that we have already read or that someone can already find on this site alone. So I am not so sure who you are posting this for?

Peace

BillyMac Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:22pm

A Little Less Diligent ...
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1024492)
Nope. But all the stuff you posted was already on the NF website. It was already on this website. The Simplified and Illustrated Rulebook is out. The Rules by Topic are out as well. Anyone can buy them now, including the rulebooks.

Most Forum members, you, me, lots of others, try to stay on top of things. We all have something in common, a strong interest in fully understanding the rules, or we would never have joined the Forum to begin with. Most of us probably visit the NFHS website. I check it very few days for new 2018-19 Basketball Rules Interpretations.

But there may be a few members, especially some new members, and a few more non-member "lurkers", who may be a little less diligent. It is for those that I re-posted the 2018-19 NFHS Point of Emphasis regarding proper terminology.

Another reason is that I'm not sure that I agree with all of proper terms that the NFHS wants us to use (what is so unprofessional about "working" a game?). I was hoping that the re-post would generate some discussion, but perhaps I should have started a new thread on that topic. I still may, knowing that it will invite some differences of opinion (as we've often seen already on the Forum with endline/baseline).

Or, maybe I'll stay away from controversial topics for a while, giving myself and everybody else, a break.

I retire from my day job as a chemist on Friday. What do I say to hecklers who yell, "Don't quit your day job."?

JRutledge Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:40pm

OK, well let them tell us that themselves. I do not assume everyone is like me or anyone, but "Closed mouths do not get fed." So if there is something they want to know, they can ask.

Peace

BillyMac Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:59pm

Socrates ...
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1024494)
"Closed mouths do not get fed." So if there is something they want to know, they can ask.

Agree, nice quote (actually new to me, thanks), relevant, to the point, spot on, well played, but might I add: "You don't know what you don't know."


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