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Old Sat Sep 08, 2018, 01:44pm
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Sometimes I think some of you officiate basketball on a different planet than I ever did...


And remember, it all simply and innocently started with this:

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4-40-1: A screen is legal action by a player who, while touching the playing court, without causing contact, delays or prevents an opponent from reaching a desired position.

4.40.2: SITUATION: A1 sets a stationary screen with one foot on or outside a boundary line. B1 makes contact with A1 in the torso. RULING: A blocking foul is ruled on A1 because a player may not be out-of-bounds while setting a legal screen.
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Old Sun Sep 09, 2018, 02:14pm
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And for some of us we officiated in a different century! LOL!

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Yes. Many of you are forgetting one play for which this rule really applies (IMO). The throw-in with end-line run. The offense is down and runs the play to draw a foul on the player guarding the inbounder. Happens to me about once every 5 years. Offensive player or screener is usually very near the endline. Needs to have both feet inbounds now or automatic block.
Here's an example of the play cited above:
Endline Throw-In Screener OOB - New Rule 4-40-1
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Old Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:23pm
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Here's an example of the play cited above:
Endline Throw-In Screener OOB - New Rule 4-40-1Y


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In the Ancient Days when real engineers and chemists used slide rules, this would have been Charging by White. Under today's NFHS and NCAA Men's and Women's Rules we have a Block.

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Old Mon Sep 24, 2018, 12:16pm
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In the Ancient Days when real engineers and chemists used slide rules, this would have been Charging by White.
And it still would have been a charge if Black #1's coach had taught him to run this special play with both feet in bounds.

In my Ancient Days, my coach taught us to get one foot on the sideline when we were pressing. It reminded us that we shouldn't leave any bit of room along the sideline for the ball handler to sneak past us along that sideline, and to funnel the ball handler toward the center of the court where we would get help to set up a trap.

Now that's illegal if there's contact along that sideline.

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Old Mon Sep 24, 2018, 11:29pm
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I hate this rule. It serves no purpose at all. Having a foot OOB doesn't gain the screener any advantage he doesn't get by keeping the foot just inbounds. Now, the officials have to watch for that foot for no good reason.
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Old Tue Sep 25, 2018, 07:49am
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I hate this rule. It serves no purpose at all. Having a foot OOB doesn't gain the screener any advantage he doesn't get by keeping the foot just inbounds. Now, the officials have to watch for that foot for no good reason.
Assuming you feel the same way about a defender having a foot OOB while drawing a player control foul.
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Old Tue Sep 25, 2018, 09:22am
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Assuming you feel the same way about a defender having a foot OOB while drawing a player control foul.

I do on both. I also don't care for the restricted arc in other rule sets.
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Old Tue Sep 25, 2018, 11:21am
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... the officials have to watch for that foot for no good reason.
I'm always afraid that I'll miss the foot on the boundary while I'm concentrating on the illegal, or lack thereof, contact, for both the new screening rule, and the old block/charge rule. And it's another reason that I'm always pleased that we don't have the restricted arc in high school basketball.

It's like the "unfunded mandates" that the Sate of Connecticut is always putting on our local towns, especially in regard to education, "By new law, your school systems have to do it this new, and better, way, but we're not giving you any additional State money to do it". The NFHS is asking us to look for illegal contact and to look at the boundary lines without giving us an extra eye, or an additional lobe to our brain.
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