M NCAA fouled on shot, loses it, then shoots again while airborne. Rules reference pl
Can anyone help with a case or rules citation of the above play? I can't find it. TIA.
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Not sure why it would not count. This play happens frequently. I must be missing something normally obvious.
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Continuous motion and the definition of the end of a try.
It might count or it might not depending on the above factors. If the ball is out of the shooter's hands and clearly can't go in the try has ended and the ball is dead. They don't get to grab it and take another try. If they're bobbling it on the way up, however, and stabilize it, it can count. |
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I remember a thread on this probably a year or two ago with a video. |
I have been officiating/playing/coaching/spectating for over 40 years and have never seen it not count.
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Relevant NFHS Language ...
If an opponent fouls after a player has started a try for goal, he/she
is permitted to complete the customary arm movement, and if pivoting or stepping when fouled, may complete the usual foot or body movement in any activity while holding the ball. The act of shooting begins simultaneously with the start of the try or tap and ends when the ball is clearly in flight, and includes the airborne shooter. The try ends when the throw is successful, when it is certain the throw is unsuccessful, when the thrown ball touches the floor or when the ball becomes dead. Based on this language, I don't believe that the goal should count in a high school game. Of course, some may have differing views regarding the meanings of "customary", "clearly", and "certain". https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.w...=0&w=300&h=300 |
"Differing views"? Correct, as based on the language, I believe that the goal should count in any game.
Again, this is based on what I have pictured in my head as the play based on the OP. Happens frequently. Furthermore, if, for those that feel that way, by rule it is to not count, then refer to my tagline.....again. |
I do not know how frequent this is. I do know that I have seen players have the ball knocked slightly away or not clean during the foul and they regain the ball or tap it in the basket. I would not consider that a miss or end of the try unless the ball completely was away from them. Maybe then I could see not counting a goal on a foul. But that is a stretch IMO to do otherwise.
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Just Like A Diamond ...
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Methinks we are not on the same page when it comes to understanding the OP.;) |
No Double Dipping ......
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Note: I would allow a player (count basket, one free throw) moving the ball from hand to hand in a controlled manner, with the ball momentarily losing contact with both hands, but if the ball pops up into the air, and the player grabs it and shoots a second time, no basket, two free throws. |
I will put it this way, I have rarely seen or can remember where such a play has happened. Yes, players have lost the ball, but usually they are not able to complete the shot. But rarely do they completely lose the ball, then somehow in the air get the ball back and then complete a shot. And this is certainly something that is not frequently happening.
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For you BMAC, losing control means no contact with ball by either hand at same time. For me, losing control does not mean that. Quote:
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