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BillyMac Fri Jun 08, 2018 04:26pm

Ball Pops Up Into The Air ...
 
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1022221)
I would allow a player (count basket, one free throw) moving the ball from hand to hand in a controlled manner, with the ball momentarily losing contact with both hands, but if the ball pops up into the air, and the player grabs it and shoots a second time, no basket, two free throws.

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Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1022240)
For you BMAC, losing control means no contact with ball by either hand at same time.

Read my complete post. A ball popping up into the air is not the same as a player moving the ball from hand to hand in a controlled manner, with the ball momentarily losing contact with both hands.

I'm not allowing two shots in this situation. They don't get two bites of the apple.

BillyMac Fri Jun 08, 2018 04:30pm

Just Once In Thousands Of Games ...
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1022235)
I have rarely seen or can remember where such a play has happened ... rarely do they completely lose the ball, then somehow in the air get the ball back and then complete a shot. And this is certainly something that is not frequently happening.

Agree fully. As I said earlier, for me, exactly just once in thousands of games. I even remember the school, the end of the court, and that I was the lead. Had to be more than fifteen years ago, but I remember that play as if it happened yesterday.

Now, where are my car keys?

bucky Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:55pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1022248)
Read my complete post. A ball popping up into the air is not the same as a player moving the ball from hand to hand in a controlled manner, with the ball momentarily losing contact with both hands.

I'm not allowing two shots in this situation. They don't get two bites of the apple.

Indeed I read it...several times for clarity. I understand passing from hand to hand but that is a form of "control", which is exactly what you indicated. "Controlled manner" is not loss of control. Indeed, a ball popping up into the air is not a controlled manner. I get your point fully.

My line "For you BMAC, losing control means no contact with ball by either hand at same time." was meant to be a general description.

BillyMac Sun Jun 10, 2018 05:19am

They Don't Get Two Bites Of The Apple ...
 
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Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1022275)
... losing control means no contact with ball by either hand at same time ...

I did say that, probably a poor choice of words on my part, which is why I clarified my statement with my followup "controlled manner" statement.

Bottom line, players still don't get two bites of the apple.

BillyMac Sun Jun 10, 2018 07:14pm

No Double Dipping ...
 
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1022277)
Bottom line, players still don't get two bites of the apple.

And no double dipping.

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bucky Mon Jun 11, 2018 03:22pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1022280)

An absolute classic!

"From now on, when you take a chip, just take one dip, and end it!


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