The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jun 01, 2018, 08:17am
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,794
It was a blarge. Watch the replays -- the T clearly has a block signal started, which is why the L hesitated.

I think they got it right on replay. Shrug.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jun 01, 2018, 08:38am
AremRed
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Under NBA rules inside 2 mins the refs can trigger replay if there is doubt about the play, specifically regarding the Restricted Area. In replay the refs can determine 1) wether the feet were inside/outside the RA, 2) whether the defender had LGP, and 3) if any other uncalled illegal acts took place (leading elbow PC foul for example). This allows them to essentially re-referee the play on video.

The Trail official did make a half-assed blocking signal, but a blarge does not trigger a review in and of itself. They must go to review the RA.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jun 01, 2018, 08:40am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Rockville,MD
Posts: 1,177
In the last two minutes of the 4th quarter and OT, replay opens up to allow reviewing disputed calls, such as unclear out-of-bounds plays, and block-charge plays under dispute. In that case, the decision was legitimate under NBA rules.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jun 01, 2018, 08:40am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 26
NFHS interpretation

I know NFHS is different than NBA, but I want to know what people would call if this was a high school game. Based on NFHS rules, I believe he had two feet down and was in LGP before the offensive player left his feet. My only question is did the offensive player move to avoid the contact and the defender slide in after establishing LGP?
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jun 01, 2018, 09:02am
AremRed
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by jakeas2 View Post
I know NFHS is different than NBA, but I want to know what people would call if this was a high school game. Based on NFHS rules, I believe he had two feet down and was in LGP before the offensive player left his feet. My only question is did the offensive player move to avoid the contact and the defender slide in after establishing LGP?
I personally have a charge.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jun 01, 2018, 09:26am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 199
I have a charge. he was there in plenty of time, and the trailing foot moved a bit, and if anything it was moving away from where the offensive contact was coming from.

more importantly, under the rules, they don't go to the monitor under there is reasonable doubt as to whether the defender was outside the arc. There was absolutely no question about that from the lead's perspective. he was a foot and a half or more outside it. hence no monitor. and that is clearly the lead's call.

if they want to go with a blarge, i suppose it then would have been a jump ball between KD and Lebron?

if a defender gets there, is about to get steamrolled, and drifts a few inches AWAY from the side the contact is coming from , that's a charge.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jun 01, 2018, 09:39am
NFHS Official
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,734
I thought it was clearly a block. James is moving forward and to the left at the time of contact. Just my opinion.

As for going to replay. Part of me thinks that when the 3 came together, they had a blarge, and knowing that the restricted arc can be reviewed, and also knowing that once they look at the arc, they can then look at the legal guarding position, they decided to review it to get it right. Had there not been a blarge, they may not have reviewed it at all.

"What you can't have is a referee who is bull-headed when all of that is taking place, and we find out later that there was a rule in place to help us get the play correct, but we ended up missing it because we were not applying the rule," McCutchen said.

Last edited by OKREF; Fri Jun 01, 2018 at 09:47am.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jun 01, 2018, 10:19am
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,794
Exactly. Anyone who thinks this is not the right way to handle this is stuck in the past. If there's a way to review and get this right, they need to reach out and take that path. They did. This is why these guys work the finals.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jun 01, 2018, 10:39am
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,558
This to me was a charge all the way. The lead had the best look and called it accordingly. Also the left foot of LBJ was planted before Durant started his motion. I do not see how this was not a charge as called on the floor.

Sorry I think this is also not the way to handle the situation under the rules. You make a call and then go and look at a replay to now debating a close call. It is one thing to do this on an out of bounds play, but not a play like this IMO. It just opens up too many cans of worms and assumptions.

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bulls/Cavs Last Second No Call (Video 2/2) NNJOfficial Basketball 33 Wed May 13, 2015 07:46pm
NBA's 8-second rule? (Warriors/Celtics) (Video) MechanicGuy Basketball 8 Tue Mar 03, 2015 03:39am
Pistons/Cavs - Block/Charge MagMan68Classic Basketball 5 Thu Apr 11, 2013 05:06pm
interesting plays- warriors vs. jazz mutantducky Basketball 19 Tue Jan 06, 2009 04:11pm
NBA two man.....CAVS game afrothunda Basketball 15 Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:07pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:49am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1