Spin move - D2 Title game (Video)

[TopicalTropical]

After watching the first video more, I do think it should have been called. I'm not a fan of calling spin moves too tight even though technically some are violations but I guess it's trying to figure out which ones to call or pass on and I think watching these videos help.

This is a beautiful spin move by Lebron. The gray area are the spin moves between the first video posted and Lebron's. The college one is not a blatant travel unless you slow it down and I don't fault the refs at all for missing it.

LeBron turns on the spin cycle - ESPN Video - ESPN

[jakeas2]

Jeff,

I wanted to get your take on this play. Do you think this is a travel? And would it be called? I had a very similar play this summer at one of my summer camps in Illinois. I called the travel, and then 2 separate assignors told me I was wrong and that we shouldn't penalized the offense for making an athletic play. This play is never called in any games that I see, mainly underclass, even though it is pretty well determined it is a travel almost 100% of the time.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jakeas2

Jeff,

I wanted to get your take on this play. Do you think this is a travel? And would it be called? I had a very similar play this summer at one of my summer camps in Illinois. I called the travel, and then 2 separate assignors told me I was wrong and that we shouldn't penalized the offense for making an athletic play. This play is never called in any games that I see, mainly underclass, even though it is pretty well determined it is a travel almost 100% of the time.

If you look at the comments I made in this thread, my position is rather clear what I think of this play.

And I cannot speak for what assignors in every situation want. I know what I am calling and I would rather call this a travel, then ignore and award the player with a foul which often happens around the basket. This was not even a good spin move either that might be difficult to identify. This looked bad live to me.

Underclass games (and varsity games) get a lot of travels that never actually happen. So this not being called properly would not be a surprise to me.

Peace

[ilyazhito]

Because this is an NCAA game, I would have a travel, because the pivot foot is moved after it is established before the ball handler shot. If it were an NBA or FIBA game, I would pass.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

Because this is an NCAA game, I would have a travel, because the pivot foot is moved after it is established before the ball handler shot. If it were an NBA or FIBA game, I would pass.

Do you mean the pivot foot was lifted and replaced?

[ilyazhito]

Yes. The pivot foot was picked up and replaced before the ball was released on the shot.

[zm1283]

Varsity basketball is the highest level I work, but I'm calling this a travel every time I catch it. The moment I'm told to stop calling it I will, but it is being called more the last couple of years (Correctly in my opinion) than it was previously.

[Raymond]

He also did not execute the beginning of his spin move cleanly. He hopped on his pivot once and then spun, at the end of which he replanted his pivot foot.