Not being antagonistic here...just want to know why.

What did the defense do wrong on that play?

(I have no dog in this fight, either.)

This is a valid point. Replay has forced us into the position where we make this type of call one way for 38 minutes and a different way for the other 2.

It might be worth refining the OOB violation verbiage in some way so as to state, “when a player dislodges the ball from a BH and the ball subsequently goes directly OOB, the player who dislodged the ball is deemed to have caused it to go out.” Then write a couple of case plays to illustrate rulings. Problem solved!




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Was sliding left and slightly toward (i.e. not maintaining LGP) at the point of contact.


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Ok, I also saw the defender obtain LGP then move left, but couldn't tell if that movement was forward into the shooter.

Difficult, big time call.

I thought the defender was legal too....and the only reason I wanted Duke to win was because I had picked them to get to the FF in my bracket.

Block/Charge - Thought the player was legal felt like the final step with right leg was straightening up or narrowing their stance not still moving.

Replay - I wish replay was used to overturn calls that are incorrectly called and obvious. Ie. someone missed something. Do not believe supper slow mo and enhanced twenty times to be sure and confirmed should be the standards for officials on the floor. If on a full speed, regular size viewing of the play there is not enough to clearly overturn the call on the floor. Call should stand and we move on.

That looked like a PC all day to me. Defense had establish LGP and didn't do anything to lose it.

I am a life long KU fan (my dear departed Mom, Class of 1942), and it was PCF.

MTD, Sr.

Sorry, but replay is there to get obvious errors corrected, not to slow plays down frame by frame to judge the last millimeter that someone touched a ball. A time limit is needed, because if it can't be determined in that amount of time, it is not indisputable visual evidence, which should be the basis to overturn any call. I understand a small delay if the referees are cycling through all the replay angles, but you can see during the broadcast that the referees are playing each angle frame by frame to try and see the last microsecond that someone had a hand on the ball. That is not the intent of replay. Also, these delays weren't restricted to March...it was happening all year.

I still can't believe they overturned that call, and again, I was rooting for Kansas.

I run plays frame-by-frame on a regular basis on my DVR. Sometimes that is what's needed to see what actually happened.

And again, there was an angle (I saw on DVR before the officials did) that shows the Duke player was the last to touch the ball with both hands.

I'd hate to be that crew that prematurely gives a ruling that then has ESPN rerunning a replay that night showing how they got it wrong in their haste to appease fans whose daily schedules have been thrown off by 2 minutes.

Agreed, but at some point, the delay and search for precision goes too far.

Not just fans, but it kills the flow of the game, and gives extended time-outs to both teams. I am sure there have been situations where an extended replay time-out benefited one team way more than the other.

As an official my only concern is getting the play right. If coaches (those who make the rules) don't think it's a problem then I'm not going to worry about flow, beer runs, dinner plans, etc. But something tells me coaches are more concerned with getting a deserved possession with 4 seconds left in the game than they are about fans and their complaints.

Video request Duke vs. Kansas Elite 8
 

All in the 2nd half:

13:41 & 6:21--both plays where Kansas is ruled OOB (is contact sufficient for foul calls/should foul count be taken into account)

1:41 & 1:25--Kansas called for travel (correct call); Grayson Allen travels in a similar manner then gets fouled and sent to the FT line.

Duke/Kansas OOB in Last Minute
 

^ This.
Also, “flow” is overrated. At its core, flow is fan speak. Do I like a smooth flowing game without many whistles? Sure, who doesn’t? Do I use judgment to pass on what I can pass on, which may indirectly improve flow? Sure. But do I overtly take steps to influence flow? Absolutely not. This includes not feeling artificially rushed at the monitor when there are no rules dictating how long I have to review. If the committee wants to change that, that’s on them, not me.


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Are you sure that is the time? I did not see a foul called at that time. The Kansas player threw the ball out of bounds after being near the basket on a pass and drive.

Peace