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BillyMac Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:30am

Just As The Mother Lion Protects Her Cubs ...
 
... you can protect your children with an insurance policy from Mutual of Omaha.

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Originally Posted by LRZ (Post 1019153)
... fish.

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Originally Posted by asdf (Post 1019155)
... horse ...

When did the Forum become Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom? Will Marlin Perkins and Jim Fowler start posting from that big jungle in the sky?

Blindolbat Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:29am

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Originally Posted by dahoopref (Post 1019103)

Would this also be a technical foul in NCAA-M?
If nothing else this just goes to show that stuff like this can happen to the best of us.
Saw teams try this a few times this year in HS. One team got away with it. Luckily I was not on that crew but just observing. I had a team try this on me early in the season but I caught them before anyone lined up for shots and made sure to let everyone know who the correct shooter should be.

Multiple Sports Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:43am

Don't give a T...
 
Yes..... by rule it could be a T, but you would be chastised for not managing that situation. Had a game where the wrong kid went to the line and he knew it. Walked up to him and said ( with a smile ), " I know you don't belong here and you know it as well. Now Im going to back away away and bounce the ball, if you catch the ball, Im going to T you up Now walk away and get the right person at the line." He smiled and walked away...he was now my de facto captain the rest of the year whenever a player on his team got mouthy...

BillyMac Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:48am

Michael Jordon In My Game ???
 
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Originally Posted by Blindolbat (Post 1019174)
Saw teams try this a few times this year in HS. I had a team try this on me early in the season but I caught them before anyone lined up for shots and made sure to let everyone know who the correct shooter should be.

It's common practice here in my little corner of Connecticut for officials to tell each other, "Twenty-three shoots", before granting a timeout before a free throw situation.

In every free throw situation, it's the responsibility of the noncalling official to remember the shooter. If not obvious, it's the responsibility of the calling official to identify the shooter, by pointing, or verbally, "Twenty-three shoots", or both.

Wasn't it Confucius who said, "When the ball is dead, we must be alive."?

asdf Sun Mar 18, 2018 02:07pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1019168)

When did the Forum become Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom?

Shortly after it became open mic night for some......

BillyMac Sun Mar 18, 2018 02:42pm

Touché ...
 
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Originally Posted by asdf (Post 1019183)
Shortly after it became open mic night for some......

Well played asdf.

Not too shabby for a Forum member with only 746 posts.

Some day, you too, will become an Esteemed Forum Member, and it will probably happen sooner rather than later.

Again, well played grasshopper.

AremRed Sun Mar 18, 2018 09:18pm

Doug Shows did advance to the round of 32, currently refereeing the West Virginia-Marshall game. We will see if he goes further.

SC Official Sun Mar 18, 2018 09:21pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 1019211)
Doug Shows did advance to the round of 32, currently refereeing the West Virginia-Marshall game. We will see if he goes further.

I’m pretty sure Round of 32 games are assigned before the first round.

Camron Rust Sun Mar 18, 2018 09:58pm

Which official called the foul?

It would be hard to hold the other two responsible if they were off ball and the calling official says #99 is my shooter.

crosscountry55 Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:12pm

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Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 1019213)
I’m pretty sure Round of 32 games are assigned before the first round.



We have this discussion every year. I think you’re right, but within the pool of officials that JD assigns to a specific opening weekend site (12), I believe he has the discretion to unassign a second round official for cause if he sees fit.


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AremRed Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:38pm

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Originally Posted by crosscountry55 (Post 1019230)
We have this discussion every year. I think you’re right, but within the pool of officials that JD assigns to a specific opening weekend site (12), I believe he has the discretion to unassign a second round official for cause if he sees fit.

Yup. Officials are always assigned to a site and officials that work round of 32 come from the 12 guys that worked the round of 64 there. I'm sure JD takes his top 48 guys and divides them up by site and then fills in the other 48. So he knows who he wants working the round of 32 beforehand, but of course he would be able to pulls Shows if he felt the error was his. Maybe JD didn't think Shows was culpable for the error or maybe didn't care. I think JD cares so I would wager Shows was found not guilty.

asdf Tue Mar 20, 2018 06:15pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1019185)
Well played asdf.

Not too shabby for a Forum member with only 746 posts.

Some day, you too, will become an Esteemed Forum Member, and it will probably happen sooner rather than later.

Again, well played grasshopper.

I've been following this forum since it's inception. One doesn't need 15,000 posts to understand who posts silliness and who posts reliable information on here.

crosscountry55 Tue Mar 20, 2018 08:19pm

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Originally Posted by asdf (Post 1019449)
I've been following this forum since it's inception. One doesn't need 15,000 posts to understand who posts silliness and who posts reliable information on here.



True, but having more than 28 posts since January helps.


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Chuga Tue Mar 20, 2018 09:02pm

Doug Shows, Kelly Self, and Dwayne Gladden was the crew.
March Madness 2018: Auburn put wrong player on free-throw line to seal win vs. Charleston | NCAA Basketball | Sporting News[/QUOTE]

The observing official could have also alerted the 3 on court officials that the wrong player was on the line.

Kansas Ref Tue Mar 20, 2018 09:43pm

The ''observing official" is highly reluctant to even think of questioning the workflow decisions of the "on-court officials"; however, notwithstanding this fault, the ruse likely tricked the observer also.


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