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Old Fri Mar 16, 2018, 01:35pm
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With about 7:01 in second half. Purdue big man called for foul in ARC. Proper application of rule?

Big man did not appear to be secondary defender and appeared vertical enough to me anyway.
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Old Fri Mar 16, 2018, 01:50pm
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If he was a secondary defender, then he has to attempt to play defense in the arc, he cannot stay grounded (I have not seen the play).
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Old Fri Mar 16, 2018, 02:03pm
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Looked like a good call from my seat 5 rows back.
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Old Fri Mar 16, 2018, 04:28pm
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If he was a secondary defender, then he has to attempt to play defense in the arc, he cannot stay grounded (I have not seen the play).
I understand that but he was primary defender. Ergo, my post.
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Wrong thread JRut
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Old Sat Mar 24, 2018, 02:27pm
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Wrong thread JRut
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2018, 07:24am
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Most definitely a secondary Defender. And he stay grounded in the restricted area.

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Old Sun Mar 25, 2018, 12:03pm
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I do not agree that it was a secondary defender however that is irrelevant as this play is a perfect example (IMO) of the RA exception whereby the player stopped his continuous motion by gathering the ball and coming to a jump stop. This was not a block/charge play.

(unless other documentation regarding exception has been added for this season)
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2018, 01:30pm
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Jump stops negate secondary defender requirements?

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Old Sun Mar 25, 2018, 02:51pm
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Based on my interpretation of the exception, yes, in this play.
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2018, 05:53pm
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While I don't think there is such a thing, at some point a defender will stop being a secondary defender and become primary defender. In this case, the offensive player was heading directly at this defender for several steps. It wasn't like the defender was sliding in at the last moment to draw a charge.

In this case, you could easily argue that he established LGP about 1' outside the RA when the defender started coming at him and he only moved laterally to maintain it, moving into the RA having already obtained LGP.
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2018, 06:20pm
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IMO, he first establishes LGP when he places his left heel on the arc.

But there is a point if the offensive player stops his penetration that secondary status no longer applies. This however wasn't one of those situations, IMO.

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Old Sun Mar 25, 2018, 09:44pm
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This is not a play where the offense ends his forward momentum the change from a secondary defender.

For RA can you establish LGP outside of the RA and then move into the RA and have legal defensive contact occur (In regards to block/charge)? (Obviously you can have legal defensive contact but I think that the question is clear)
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2018, 10:23pm
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For RA can you establish LGP outside of the RA and then move into the RA and have legal defensive contact occur (In regards to block/charge)?
Yes. You don't lose LGP by entering the RA. You just can't establish it initially within the RA.
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