IHSA Boys State Finals 2018 Plays (Video)

[JRutledge]

Play #1:



A few more to come.

Peace

Not a foul. Even if it was, wrong official making the call.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Play #1:



A few more to come.

Peace

You let the ball-handler get manhandled and then call a rebounding goul from 30 feet away. That's not a good look.

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[JRutledge]

Play #2:


Play #3:


Play #4:


Play #5:


Play #6:


Peace

[Camron Rust]

1. Good call. Displaced the rebounder with position in order to get to the ball.

2. Sure. They play came at him and he has the best angle on it.

3. Good call. Not much ball, mostly arm. If not for the arm contact, the shooter might have been able to push through and complete the shot.

4. Good block call. While the feet were down, he was still moving into the path after the shooter jumped.

5. He called a push...I don't see a push. It may be a foul, but I don't think he saw what he thought he saw. Therefore, he went too far.

6. Tough to tell. The ball got him in the face. The defender's hand may have too but it is really hard to tell.

Play 1: Not a foul. Even if it was, wrong official making the call.

Play 2: Not a foul. Has to be a lot more obvious than this in a loose ball scramble. What the hell is Trail doing not staying engaged?

Play 3: Foul

Play 4: Charge, defender was legal and was moving to maintain IMO

Play 5: It's a tripping foul but as Slot I would not even be watching Trail's one matchup in the back court.

Play 6: Foul on white #12

[Multiple Sports]

I think there is a bigger problem here. In a lot of instances ( especially hoops ), I think a lot of crews at state championships are in over their head. In some instances you have local assigners submitting crews. You end up at times giving games to crews that have never seen that type of athleticism. Can you image a guy from the middle of nowhere in Pennsylvania seeing Roman Catholic for the 1st time. That official during the season is at best is seeing a guy that wont
get minutes at the D3 level and then in the state chip is getting a team with three D1 players who are going to Power 5's.

Im not saying guys dont deserve the assignnent, just feel at times the crews dont do the game justice....

Thoughts ????

[RefRich]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

Can you image a guy from the middle of nowhere in Pennsylvania seeing Roman Catholic for the 1st time. That official during the season is at best is seeing a guy that wont
get minutes at the D3 level and then in the state chip is getting a team with three D1 players who are going to Power 5's

Aw shucks, we here in PA just don't know how these teams run so fast or jump so high. We don't know what it means to adjust to the level of play. Please educate us.

These are high school officials who have worked their asses off to get to this level. This is not their profession but I'm sure many if not all do study the game quite a bit. Why do they not deserve a state final? Hopefully they will watch film and learn from any mistakes and improve their game. You make it sound as if an official who has officiated Roman Catholic would not make mistakes. I'm pretty sure the videos that are posted regularly on this sit prove that to be incorrect.

I'm not sure if you could sound more condescending but I'll stick around to see.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

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Play 4: Charge, defender was legal and was moving to maintain IMO

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He was still sliding over after A1 was airborne.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

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Play 2: Not a foul. Has to be a lot more obvious than this in a loose ball scramble. What the hell is Trail doing not staying engaged?
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I would love for you to explain how that contact is not a foul.

[Raymond]

#5) The Center has no business looking back there, let alone blowing his whistle when the Trail is 3 feet from the play.

#6) Player got hit in the head by both opponents.

Originally Posted by Raymond

I would love for you to explain how that contact is not a foul.

Sure thing. During a scramble for a 'loose' ball like this play my bar for marginal contact goes way up. My goal at all time is to call obvious fouls, and my criteria for what constitutes an obvious foul also goes way up in situations like this.

I don't see an obvious foul, just offensive player being clumsy when going for the ball. Marginal contact.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Sure thing. During a scramble for a 'loose' ball like this play my bar for marginal contact goes way up. My goal at all time is to call obvious fouls, and my criteria for what constitutes an obvious foul also goes way up in situations like this.

I don't see an obvious foul, just offensive player being clumsy when going for the ball. Marginal contact.

Then it's time for you to recalibrate. The defender knocks offensive player down with his leg.

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[deecee]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Then it's time for you to recalibrate. The defender knocks offensive player down with his leg.

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Looked incidental to me from the scramble to get the ball. I had a no-call to be honest.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by deecee

Looked incidental to me from the scramble to get the ball. I had a no-call to be honest.

It was incidental until he actually got the ball. He then started a dribble and was knocked off the ball. The contact is the only reason he couldn't continue to control the ball. To me, that is a foul every day.