Dunk after the game ends...

[Clark Kent]

I'm sure there is a situation out there on the forum that has a similar play...if you know include the thread please.

Game ends. Score is 58-56. Before my partner and I can run for the door, tall player on winning team grabs ball and dunks it (game was clearly over and he dunked it in the opponent's basket). To add to it he hung on the rim with no one around to warrant a "safety issue". What would you do? And how do you administer it correctly?


I know there was a similar situation in a state championship a few years back, but that was during play.

Ohio team loses H.S. state title after late hanging-on-the-rim technical foul - SportsNation - ESPN

[Raymond]

Unless my exit door is directly behind and within 5 feet of said basket, I won't see it.

[bob jenkins]

Unless this rises to the level of a "taunting T", I'm leaving it alone -- the game is over.

[jas4yf]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

I'm sure there is a situation out there on the forum that has a similar play...if you know include the thread please.

Game ends. Score is 58-56. Before my partner and I can run for the door, tall player on winning team grabs ball and dunks it (game was clearly over and he dunked it in the opponent's basket). To add to it he hung on the rim with no one around to warrant a "safety issue". What would you do? And how do you administer it correctly?


I know there was a similar situation in a state championship a few years back, but that was during play.

Ohio team loses H.S. state title after late hanging-on-the-rim technical foul - SportsNation - ESPN

I'm doing everything I can to NOT see this occur. But for argument's sake, if you must call it, you would issue the technical foul.

The losing team would shoot two free throws. If they are both successful you would go to overtime.

[Clark Kent]

Ok...so they make both free throws. Do you start overtime with a jump ball or possession at mid court?

Also because it was a dead ball would it be an indirect to the coach because it is bench personal or is it a direct to the kid that dunked?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

Ok...so they make both free throws. Do you start overtime with a jump ball or possession at mid court?

Can any part of a penalty carry over? What do the case plays on other "ts after the game should have ended" say?

Also because it was a dead ball would it be an indirect to the coach because it is bench personal or is it a direct to the kid that dunked?

Those aren't mutually exclusive. (that's a hint)

[Clark Kent]

I already looked through the casebook....which is why I reached out on the forum.

I would assume you start the overtime with a jump ball because the tech has to be assessed in the 4th quarter in order to have overtime occur.

So you are saying both a tech to the kid and an indirect to the head coach? A dunk in warm-ups isn't a direct to the player correct? Why is this situation different?

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

A dunk in warm-ups isn't a direct to the player correct?

Are you sure about that?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

I already looked through the casebook....which is why I reached out on the forum.

I would assume you start the overtime with a jump ball because the tech has to be assessed in the 4th quarter in order to have overtime occur.

So you are saying both a tech to the kid and an indirect to the head coach? A dunk in warm-ups isn't a direct to the player correct? Why is this situation different?

You cannot have an indirect to the HC without some sort of direct tech to the bench or bench personnel.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

I already looked through the casebook....which is why I reached out on the forum.

5.6.2C, for one

So you are saying both a tech to the kid and an indirect to the head coach? A dunk in warm-ups isn't a direct to the player correct? Why is this situation different?

10.5.1E

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

I'm sure there is a situation out there on the forum that has a similar play...if you know include the thread please.

Game ends. Score is 58-56. Before my partner and I can run for the door, tall player on winning team grabs ball and dunks it (game was clearly over and he dunked it in the opponent's basket). To add to it he hung on the rim with no one around to warrant a "safety issue". What would you do? And how do you administer it correctly?


I know there was a similar situation in a state championship a few years back, but that was during play.

Ohio team loses H.S. state title after late hanging-on-the-rim technical foul - SportsNation - ESPN

Originally Posted by Raymond

Unless my exit door is directly behind and within 5 feet of said basket, I won't see it.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Unless this rises to the level of a "taunting T", I'm leaving it alone -- the game is over.

The situation in the OhioHSAA State Championship Game (Div. II) a few years ago happened with four seconds left in the Fourth Quarter. I have seen the video of the situation and it was the correct call. There was no question that a TF should have been called.

That said, I agree with BNR and Bob: Get the hell out of Dodge!

MTD, Sr.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

I already looked through the casebook....which is why I reached out on the forum.

I would assume you start the overtime with a jump ball because the tech has to be assessed in the 4th quarter in order to have overtime occur.

So you are saying both a tech to the kid and an indirect to the head coach? A dunk in warm-ups isn't a direct to the player correct? Why is this situation different?

Note that nearly every T is direct to someone...the person who committed the infraction.

The only T's not "direct" to someone are those that are not necessarily pinned on a single individual, T's that are only "Team" technical. Book T's could be because of anyone. DOG T's could be because of 2 (or more) players. If the T is earned by a single individual without regard to any other prior action, it is direct.

[Clark Kent]

[QUOTE=bob jenkins;1017285]5.6.2C, for one


Thank you! That is what I was looking for. I breezed past that scenario in haste.

[deecee]

Superman, you should read the rule book with your glasses on, not off.

[Clark Kent]

Thanks for the advice all around. I appreciate that feedback on this situation and a more clear understanding of the rules. Thanks to all who responded.