Video request: Xavier beats Creighton on final drive/foul

[thedewed]

that's not a foul, player went straight up, both of them, perfectly legal. only thing approaching a foul , and it wasn't either, was the off arm of the driver. clearly bad call.

[nolanjj68]

1- travel. put his left foot down first to establish pivot, then right foot, picked left foot up and put it down. Happened so fast amazing the official got it really.

2- foul but minor contact. However I feel even minor contact to the arms in the act of shooting needs to be called.

3- no foul good LGP.

[bob jenkins]

I like the foul on the 3-point shot -- having called one myself at the buzzer in OT with a tie score.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

... at the buzzer in OT with a tie score.

My post is aimed at rookies. bob jenkin's post reminded me of a situation that I observed this past week.

My partner and I were watching the end of the junior varsity game preceding our varsity game from the trainer's office as my partner was getting a hamstring injury taped. Tie score. Player fouled in the act of shooting at the buzzer. 0:00 on the clock, and the buzzer sounded. The junior varsity officials got together and decided to shoot the free throws and leave the clock at 0:00. What happened next is bizarre, on two counts. They allowed the players to line up on the free throw lanes while the free throws were being attempted; and they allowed the player to attempt the second free throw after the first attempt was successful (winning the game).

[Camron Rust]

1. Travel. But almost never called...unless the alternative is a charge.

2. Flop. He touched him, sure, but that's it...no foul.

3. Good call...on #4, not #32.

Play 1: Not a travel. But I see D1 guys "save" a player a foul with this type of call all the time. Don't like that, this travel is splitting hairs and not consistent with the way other foot action is officiated in different parts of the game.

Play 2: Not a foul. Weak shit.

Play 3: Also not a foul, but 'consistent' with Play 2.

[Amesman]

This is a great example to debate (clip 3), and it's not fair to the comrade in stripes because we can play it back and forth all we want (thanks again, Rut).

But, ultimately, if you're in that situation, other than showing you're paying attention, rotating and coming out strong with the call -- all done superbly -- just what the heck could you tell No. 32 to do differently next time? (OK, OK our job is not to coach ... )

But breaking this down, it's a sincere request. Take a look: What does this guy have to do differently next time? Be honest. He was in his own spot in time and jumped straight up. The clutter from No. 4 pinching (did he foul?) admittedly made it more confusing in real time.

It's a heat-of-the-moment call that could have gone either way. But with the benefit of video breakdown, it's tough to say this is something to punish a defender for -- at any point in the game.

Probably the most remarkable thing of this is the restraint 32 showed afterward.

And, no, I have no dog in this fight. I'm also not criticizing a fellow official. It's all about the learning aspect for next time, as far as I'm concerned. Grateful for the help this board always offers.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Play 1: Not a travel. But I see D1 guys "save" a player a foul with this type of call all the time. Don't like that, this travel is splitting hairs and not consistent with the way other foot action is officiated in different parts of the game.

Play 2: Not a foul. Weak shit.

Play 3: Also not a foul, but 'consistent' with Play 2.

1) First you say it's not a travel, then you say it's splitting hairs. It is a travel. Whether or not it is consistently called is another debate.

2) Close enough to the release of the shot, and significant enough contact to call a foul in this situation.

3) Significant enough contact to call a foul (on #4), especially in consideration of the previous play.

You still have the annoying habit of bashing officials instead of analyzing and breaking down plays. If you're going to call it "weak sh!t" here, then say it to them when they are observing at your camps. But don't be "that guy" who mouths off anonymously on social media, but not publicly with your name attached.