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So the final confirmed answer to my original question that turned into several other questions is that a Moving/Illegal Screen without contact can never be called just a VIOLATION....YES?
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Yes, because not matter how poorly a Screen is set, if there is no contact between the Screener and the Screened, no infraction of the Rules has occurred. MTD, Sr. |
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If I run around you, is that a foul? If I run near you and decide to stop running, is that a foul? Scary ... If you expect it to be a violation, what would the "violation" be: Moving on the court without contacting anyone? |
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I graduated from H.S. in 1969 and my H.S. basketball coach was also an OhioHSAA registered basketball official. Whenever he was asked why he was a basketball official, his reply was: "How can you teach someone to play the game if you do not know the rules." To elaborate on that, my coach taught Guarding and Screening right out of the Rules Book. If one were to have observed our practice one would have thought he/she were watching a basketball officiating camp. Before I could graduated from H.S. I could quote "chapter and verse" of the Guarding and Screening rules. That is why I can say with absolute certainty that the Guarding and Screening rules have not changed in over 50 years, not to mention that I started officiating in 1971 and the oldest rules book in my library is the 1963-64 season. MTD, Sr. |
Fouls (Rule 10), Violations (Rule 9) ...
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Violations are noncontact illegalities: traveling, illegal dribble, out of bounds, three seconds, backcourt, ten seconds, five seconds, basketball interference, goaltending, free throw violations, etc. What you should probably be asking is can a moving screen without contact ever be called a foul? Or, maybe you really are asking if a moving screen without contact can ever be called a violation? No, and no. Personal fouls, like an illegal screen, always involve illegal contact (an illegal screen is often a blocking foul, and a team control foul (no free throws)). And a moving screen, with or without contact, illegal, or otherwise, can never be called a violation, it's not even mentioned in Rule 9 VIOLATIONS (see partial list of noncontact illegalities above, travel, etc.). Screen with legal contact (even with severe legal contact)? Nothing. Screen with illegal contact? Foul. Screen with no contact? Nothing. A violation never even comes into the picture, it's a non sequitur. |
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Valiant effort and clearly stated but I think your efforts are for naught. OP either can't or won't be able to fathom plain English, either for lack of language aptitude or pure stubbornness. My sense is that both apply. |
Rational, Logical, Sequential, Examples, All The Bells And Whistles ...
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Did I use the phrase non sequitur properly? I don't think that I've ever used in its written form before today. |
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Translated as 'explain like I'm five' years old. Non sequitur is apropos. Miss McGillicuddy would mark you down for misspelling the past participle of 'to write', and have you march to the blackboard to write it at least 100 times, in your best cursive. |
My Manners Need Improving ...
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Whenever a HC wants a Foul for a poorly set "moving screen" in which there was no contact I always tell him/her that this is not soccer where the penalty for Obstruction is an Indirect Freekick.
MTD, Sr. |
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Miss McGillicuddy ...
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The Gang's teacher before Miss Crabtree. |
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