Rule Test Question #77

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally posted by rainmaker

A1 can request a time out.

A1 can CALL a time-out.

There is no definition in Rule 4 for "call", "request", or "grant". So we'll have to use the dictionary definitions. The interesting one is definition 1b for the word "call" at http://www.m-w.com: to make a request or demand

Rule 2-7-6 says that the officials' general duties include "Granting time-out." The word "grants" is also used in 5-8-3. 5-8-3 is "Grants a player's/head coach's oral or visual request for a time-out..."

So I'd say that a player or head coach "calling" time-out is, by definition, a "request", and the officials' duties are to "grant" that time-out CALLED by the player or head coach.

[mick]

Originally posted by A Pennsylvania Coach
...So I'd say that a player or head coach "calling" time-out is, by definition, a "request", and the officials' duties are to "grant" that time-out CALLED by the player or head coach.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by A Pennsylvania Coach
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There is no definition in Rule 4 for "call", "request", or "grant". So we'll have to use the dictionary definitions. The interesting one is definition 1b for the word "call" at http://www.m-w.com: to make a request or demand

Rule 2-7-6 says that the officials' general duties include "Granting time-out." The word "grants" is also used in 5-8-3. 5-8-3 is "Grants a player's/head coach's oral or visual request for a time-out..."

So I'd say that a player or head coach "calling" time-out is, by definition, a "request", and the officials' duties are to "grant" that time-out CALLED by the player or head coach.
[/B][/QUOTE]Right,Coach,we either grant,or do not grant,your request. It's that simple. The semantics don't really matter as long as everyone knows that it is not an automatic process if you try to "call" a TO.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

A1 can CALL a time-out.

There is no definition in Rule 4 for "call", "request", or "grant". So we'll have to use the dictionary definitions. The interesting one is definition 1b for the word "call" at http://www.m-w.com: to make a request or demand

Interestingly, Coach, the full entry for definition 1b is:

to make a request or demand <call for an investigation>

Notice that the person isn't calling an investigation. He is calling for an investigation. So analogously, the coach may certainly call for a time-out. But he can't call it. I'm happy to say that I made this very point less than a week ago. http://www.officialforum.com/showthr...8&pagenumber=5

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Interestingly, Coach, the full entry for definition 1b is:

to make a request or demand <call for an investigation>

Notice that the person isn't calling an investigation.
[/B][/QUOTE]If it was one of your calls,the coach shoulda had the right to call for an investigation!

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
If it was one of your calls,the coach shoulda had the right to call for an investigation!

Just when I think you're beginning to like me. . .

[ChuckElias]

Coach, one last thing. If you honestly believe that the coach can call a time-out, then when he or she says, "Hey, that's a foul!!", do you also believe that the coach is calling a foul? Nuh-uh.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Just when I think you're beginning to like me. . .