Rule Test Question #77 - Page 2

Jay R · #16 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 08, 2003, 07:35pm

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Originally posted by JRutledge

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Originally posted by garote
All right I'm having a brain cramp. A1 is falling out of bounds..can he/she call time out.

Only the NBA has a rule against this.

Peace

And Feeble!

rainmaker · #17 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 08, 2003, 11:06pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

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Originally posted by Dan_ref

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Originally posted by rainmaker

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Does A1 need to be inbounds to call...err...to request TO?

I'm sure she does, if she has the ball. Without the ball, I'm not sure. Does anyone know a reference for requesting a time-out without the ball, while out of bounds?

More nits: why can't A1, holding the ball, be OOB when requesting TO?

Legal,if it's a throw-in.Anyone on Team A can.Also OK if ball is at disposal of Team A for a throw-in,too.
Rule 5-8-3(a)
Casebook play 5.8.3SitB or 5.8.3SitD(c).

Wow, I am in awe. I just can't think so logically. Is this another estrogen problem?

Nevadaref · #18 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 09, 2003, 12:58am

Hey Juules!
OR at the disposal of a player from Team A for a free throw!

Jurassic Referee · #19 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 09, 2003, 04:23am

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
Hey Juules!
OR at the disposal of a player from Team A for a free throw!

How does that fall in line with a player or team mate calling a TO while they are OOB-which was the nit being discussed?

The one above is just a simple example of a player holding a live ball in bounds.Different nits completely.

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Oct 9th, 2003 at 04:33 AM]

BktBallRef · #20 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 09, 2003, 09:19am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

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Originally posted by BktBallRef

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Originally posted by rainmaker
Does A1 need to be inbounds to call...err...to request TO?

I'm sure she does, if she has the ball. Without the ball, I'm not sure. Does anyone know a reference for requesting a time-out without the ball, while out of bounds?

How do we know A1 is a she?

Most of us don't have a problem knowing that,actually.

Some things to look for:long hair,skirts,lipstick,bumps on their sweaters....

If you need any more help,just ask. [/B][/QUOTE]

Problem is, I can't see her.

Also, you obviously haven't been to a high school lately.

Jurassic Referee · #21 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 09, 2003, 09:22am

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
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Problem is, I can't see her.

Also, you obviously haven't been to a high school lately. [/B][/QUOTE]No....but I've been to a Holiday Inn Express!

mick · #22 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 09, 2003, 09:29am

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Originally posted by rainmaker
If A1 doesn't have possession, I'd look to the coach for confirmation before granting. Why in the world call a timeout because a non-possession player is falling out of bounds? If the timing becomse an issue, you can always say he called it in time, but you just hadn't blown the whistle yet.

Jewel,
If the team in possession wants a time out, just call it.
Don't overthink this mechanic.

mick

Indy_Ref · #23 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 09, 2003, 10:24am

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Originally posted by mick

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Originally posted by rainmaker
If A1 doesn't have possession, I'd look to the coach for confirmation before granting. Why in the world call a timeout because a non-possession player is falling out of bounds? If the timing becomse an issue, you can always say he called it in time, but you just hadn't blown the whistle yet.

Jewel,
If the team in possession wants a time out, just call it.
Don't overthink this mechanic.
mick

Exactly! I took the ORIGINAL post as one that was just looking for a quick true/false response...and my answer turned into a book-long discussion...

not that that's all bad, of course.

Dan_ref · #24 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 09, 2003, 10:47am

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Originally posted by rainmaker

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

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Originally posted by Dan_ref

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Originally posted by rainmaker

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Does A1 need to be inbounds to call...err...to request TO?

I'm sure she does, if she has the ball. Without the ball, I'm not sure. Does anyone know a reference for requesting a time-out without the ball, while out of bounds?

More nits: why can't A1, holding the ball, be OOB when requesting TO?

Legal,if it's a throw-in.Anyone on Team A can.Also OK if ball is at disposal of Team A for a throw-in,too.
Rule 5-8-3(a)
Casebook play 5.8.3SitB or 5.8.3SitD(c).

Wow, I am in awe. I just can't think so logically. Is this another estrogen problem?

Not sure who you're in awe of here but I've been told by many coaches that I inspire awe....pssst, hey Chuck, that is what aweful means, aint it?

ChuckElias · #25 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 09, 2003, 11:10am

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
I've been told by many coaches that I inspire awe....pssst, hey Chuck, that is what aweful means, aint it?

Sure, pardner, sure.

rainmaker · #26 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 09, 2003, 05:44pm

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Originally posted by mick

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Originally posted by rainmaker
If A1 doesn't have possession, I'd look to the coach for confirmation before granting. Why in the world call a timeout because a non-possession player is falling out of bounds? If the timing becomse an issue, you can always say he called it in time, but you just hadn't blown the whistle yet.

Jewel,
If the team in possession wants a time out, just call it.
Don't overthink this mechanic.
mick

I suppose you're right. I'm used to the level of play where the coach says, "Time out?!? What for?!?! Lindsey, what the heck are you doing?!?!" Trying to be judicious about my response to the player who is committing a very stupid act.

Dan_ref · #27 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 09, 2003, 07:45pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker

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Originally posted by mick

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Originally posted by rainmaker
If A1 doesn't have possession, I'd look to the coach for confirmation before granting. Why in the world call a timeout because a non-possession player is falling out of bounds? If the timing becomse an issue, you can always say he called it in time, but you just hadn't blown the whistle yet.

Jewel,
If the team in possession wants a time out, just call it.
Don't overthink this mechanic.
mick

I suppose you're right. I'm used to the level of play where the coach says, "Time out?!? What for?!?! Lindsey, what the heck are you doing?!?!" Trying to be judicious about my response to the player who is committing a very stupid act.

Don't worry about Lindsey, she's a tough little cookie!

rainmaker · #28 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 09, 2003, 10:39pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref

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Originally posted by rainmaker
I suppose you're right. I'm used to the level of play where the coach says, "Time out?!? What for?!?! Lindsey, what the heck are you doing?!?!" Trying to be judicious about my response to the player who is committing a very stupid act.

Don't worry about Lindsey, she's a tough little cookie!

Okay, let's see.... I'm, uh... taking pity on the coach! Yea, that's it! The poor long-suffering coach who worked with the girls all week on requesting time-out when they were falling out of bounds--- with the ball!! And now Lindsey pulls this stunt... Augh!!! I think it's to the ref's advantage to give the coach the sympathetic raised eye-brow, so she knows she's still in charge, eh? Or, (south of North Dakota and Minnesota) ...still in charge, y'know?

BktBallRef · #29 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 09, 2003, 10:52pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

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Originally posted by BktBallRef

Problem is, I can't see her.

Also, you obviously haven't been to a high school lately. [/B]

No....but I've been to a Holiday Inn Express! [/B][/QUOTE]

Hope the wifey doesn't find out!

Nevadaref · #30 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 10, 2003, 06:23am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
Hey Juules!
OR at the disposal of a player from Team A for a free throw!

How does that fall in line with a player or team mate calling a TO while they are OOB-which was the nit being discussed? The one above is just a simple example of a player holding a live ball in bounds.Different nits completely.

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Oct 9th, 2003 at 04:33 AM]

That whooshing sound you heard was this one going over your head, JR. So I'll slow it down for ya.

We are returning from a TO to shoot free throws and Team A doesn't break their huddle as required after the first horn and is still at their bench after the second horn, so the official uses the resuming-play procedure and places the ball at the disposal of the free thrower by putting it down in the semi-circle and the proper official starts the ten second count. Now a smart player from Team A who is still OOB at his team's bench realizes that they are going to violate and requests a TO. No player holding the ball inbounds and the TO request comes from a player who is OOB.
Hence, my nit!