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Old Tue Feb 06, 2018, 10:20pm
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I think another option is to run the coach, finish out the game and never go back.
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Old Tue Feb 06, 2018, 10:27pm
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I think another option is to run the coach, finish out the game and never go back.
Of course that would be the preferred route. I wish I could paint a better picture, but believe me when I say this guy comes and goes as he pleases. Tossing him would have only caused a scene for kids that don't deserve that. The way it went down in the office, with the person overseeing the gym sitting right there, made it clear to me he wasnt going to be made to do anything he doesn't want to do. I hated having to do what I did, believe me. Realistically, how do you envision that 2nd half going?
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Old Tue Feb 06, 2018, 10:42pm
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While finishing the game would be ideal, but lets look what happened in the Site Manager's office: B-HC's is running wild and the SM did nothing to stop him. My instincts tell me that had B-HC been tossed, the SM would still have defended B-HC and done nothing to defend the Game Officials. Therefore, it makes sense to go home early because no official needs this kind of grief.

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Old Tue Feb 06, 2018, 10:52pm
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It's one thing for a coach to go insane on the court, but to come into the locker room during halftime and keep throwing a temper tantrum? And furthermore the administration is doing nothing about it while being RIGHT THERE? Hell no.

Quitting like that is usually not the right thing, but if how you describe things is how it went down then... if I were your partner... I would have walked out with you.
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Old Tue Feb 06, 2018, 11:27pm
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No embellishments here, fellas. Another fellow official, who also works there on occasion, told me he has had this same coach come at his partner like that before. He described it as a poor representation of that facility, as it is a great place for basketball. I have had numerous people compliment me both in person, and to others who have relayed back to me. I am known to be as fair as they come and I do well with all ages.

I assure you all, had I stayed and issued a 2nd T, there would have been zero enforcement from the gym mgmt. I hate that I had to make the decision, it would have only gotten worse.
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Old Tue Feb 06, 2018, 11:49pm
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What did your partner do?
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Old Tue Feb 06, 2018, 11:56pm
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What did your partner do?
I'm assuming he stayed. He did back my side of it up, but nothing other than that.

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Old Wed Feb 07, 2018, 12:11am
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Tossing him would have only caused a scene for kids that don't deserve that.
This should not be a consideration.
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Old Wed Feb 07, 2018, 12:37am
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Tossing him would have only caused a scene for kids that don't deserve that.
AremRed beat me to the punch.

The “it’s all about the kids” mantra.

Our job as officials includes penalizing unsporting behavior. When the coach hangs himself, we have to take care of business. It’s not about being fair to “the kids.” If anything, it’s showing them that acting like an asshat is not acceptable.
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Old Wed Feb 07, 2018, 12:52am
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AremRed beat me to the punch.

The “it’s all about the kids” mantra.

Our job as officials includes penalizing unsporting behavior. When the coach hangs himself, we have to take care of business. It’s not about being fair to “the kids.” If anything, it’s showing them that acting like an asshat is not acceptable.
I understand and I agree with both of you on a fundamental level. With this essentially being a Rec format, and with his status at that facility, a 2nd T would have been met with zero enforcement from the staff on hand. It would have been a circus with no real meaning, and that is what I meant by enough is enough.
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Old Wed Feb 07, 2018, 07:50am
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Losing officials is likely the only way the facility will figure out that they have an issue, and hopefully deal with that issue. Hindsight is 20/20, but I would have put it at the feet of the administrator in the office. Tell the admin that the coach is ejected and if he isn't removed from sight and sound, then you are gone. I know you said no enforcement WOULD have happen, but, to me, I feel like I'd need the lack of enforcement to actually happen before I walked off. This could have all been determined within that office before the halftime was over.
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Old Wed Feb 07, 2018, 02:34am
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Your promote what you permit

Unacceptable. Someone needs to run him. If not you, who? If not then, when?
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