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bob jenkins Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:13pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 1016088)
I find it hard to nitpick these.

It's close, the official got a look, he made a decision.

And, it's hard to really find anything we can learn from this -- other than maybe to always be ready for it, especially from the opposite side

Camron Rust Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:22pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1016100)
And, it's hard to really find anything we can learn from this -- other than maybe to always be ready for it, especially from the opposite side

I think there is something to be learned....don't call it if you're straightlined with what needs to be seen. Trust your partner with the better angle to get it.

BryanV21 Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:36pm

Either way I don't think I'd have a whistle on this play. I like to know what happened instead of guessing as to what happened, and this is so close I'd be guessing.

bob jenkins Thu Feb 01, 2018 01:38pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 1016087)
The call was right. The ball just hit the board then blocked, you have to go super slo mo. Either way tie goes to the offense. The defenders action after the call was bs IMO.

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 1016104)
Either way I don't think I'd have a whistle on this play. I like to know what happened instead of guessing as to what happened, and this is so close I'd be guessing.

Does the benefit of the doubt go to the offense (deecee) or the defense (Bryan)? Has any of the rule-making bodies made a statement on that?

deecee Thu Feb 01, 2018 02:05pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1016115)
Does the benefit of the doubt go to the offense (deecee) or the defense (Bryan)? Has any of the rule-making bodies made a statement on that?

I'm saying that if it's close like this the expectation is go with the offense getting the benefit of the doubt. Not saying that all 50/50 calls have to go the offenses way, just that the expectation is that it will. Either is right in my book, I tend to lean towards the offense I find.

BryanV21 Thu Feb 01, 2018 02:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1016115)
Does the benefit of the doubt go to the offense (deecee) or the defense (Bryan)? Has any of the rule-making bodies made a statement on that?

I would want to see the violation, not guess that there is one. I'm sure we've all seen things that were probably a foul, but we didn't see the actual contact so we don't blow our whistle.

So, in this case, if you want to say the benefit of the doubt goes to the offense then so be it.

RedAndWhiteRef Thu Feb 01, 2018 03:38pm

Around :35 is the decisive angle for me--behind the bucket. I see the ball graze the glass a split-second before the St. John's player gets it.

In real time, though, the ref is gonna piss off one team no matter what.

#olderthanilook Thu Feb 01, 2018 03:43pm

The overhead replay from the camera behind the backboard shows the ball touching glass a millisecond before B1 touches it.

Nice job by the official.


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