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Old Thu Jan 25, 2018, 12:17pm
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can a coach call a timeout at the end of a tied game but a foul has been called. this coach called a timeout just before the free throws were going to be shot? is that legal
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2018, 12:18pm
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Yes.

Consecutive timeouts after time expires in regulation or at the end of an extra period are not allowed.


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Old Thu Jan 25, 2018, 12:39pm
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Consecutive timeouts after time expires in regulation or at the end of an extra period are not allowed.


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This has caused confusion for a partner one time. A timeout can be called after regulation, but not successive which you have to go to 4-43-2 for the definition of. He took this to mean successive relative to the "time out break" between quarters or in that case between the 4Q and OT.
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You also can not start OT with a Timeout.
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2018, 03:39pm
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You also can not start OT with a Timeout.
Also cannot start the game with a timeout. Or more specifically, no timeout is granted at the start of the game and OT until the ball is live.
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2018, 04:06pm
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You also can not start OT with a Timeout.
Note quite correct. A team can't use the additional timeout granted for OT until the OT has started. But, there is nothing preventing them from using a timeout that was left over from regulation.
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2018, 08:17pm
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Note quite correct. A team can't use the additional timeout granted for OT until the OT has started. But, there is nothing preventing them from using a timeout that was left over from regulation.
Guess I am confused here. No TO can be used in OT until the ball has become live. Can't just start OT with a TO carried over from the 4th quarter.
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Guess I am confused here. No TO can be used in OT until the ball has become live. Can't just start OT with a TO carried over from the 4th quarter.
That's what I thought, but I'm open to other interpretations.
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2018, 10:02pm
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Can't just start OT with a TO carried over from the 4th quarter.
Yes you can. As mentioned, it just can't be the additional timeout you are allotted for overtime.
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2018, 10:07pm
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Guess I am confused here. No TO can be used in OT until the ball has become live. Can't just start OT with a TO carried over from the 4th quarter.


How about a rule or case citation?


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Old Thu Jan 25, 2018, 03:57pm
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Consecutive timeouts after time expires in regulation or at the end of an extra period are not allowed.
I have to imagine that this rule is in place to prevent the endless icing of the free-throw shooter. That means in some game, long long ago, a coach must have called three or four timeouts and dragged the end of the game out by five agonizing minutes. Chances are this rule was added not long after.
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2018, 12:44pm
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Successive, right.

We had a crew locally have a player foul out on such a foul a few weeks ago. The defense was going to use the 15 seconds, enter the sub,and then call a 60 second timeout. Before he could do any of these, the crew allowed the team to shoot the winning free throw. Then the second one.

The assigner, ahem, got an email the next morning.


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can a coach call a timeout at the end of a tied game but a foul has been called. this coach called a timeout just before the free throws were going to be shot? is that legal
Welcome to the forum, Mr. Semantics checking in!

A coach may REQUEST a time out. It is up to the official, to decide to grant it.
In your case, legit request, should be granted.

Factors to consider.....
If his played is shooting, request may be granted even if shooter has ball but before shot is released.
If opponent is shooting, request must be made before the ball is 'at the disposal of shooter. See Rules Book for definition of 'at the disposal'

NB:This is for NFHS rules, other levels may differ.
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Welcome to the forum, Mr. Semantics checking in!

A coach may REQUEST a time out. It is up to the official, to decide to grant it.
In your case, legit request, should be granted.

Factors to consider.....
If his played is shooting, request may be granted even if shooter has ball but before shot is released.
If opponent is shooting, request must be made before the ball is 'at the disposal of shooter. See Rules Book for definition of 'at the disposal'

NB:This is for NFHS rules, other levels may differ.


If the situation is such that a Team is allowed to request a TO, then the Game Official must grant the request.

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Old Fri Jan 26, 2018, 11:52am
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If the situation is such that a Team is allowed to request a TO, then the Game Official must grant the request.

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So in the hopeless unlikely scenario that Billy Mac raised, if a team is out of time outs at the end of the game that is going to OT, but requests one (thinking he has a new one for OT) before OT starts, does the R, (A) grant a TO and give a T for not having any, or (B) tell the coach that he can't be granted the additional TO until after the OT starts?

(And for the life of me I can't figure out why a realistic reason a coach would do that anyway . . .maybe the star is still having a cut wrapped up?)
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