Question about a junior girls play

[just another ref]

So, after the guard entered this ring of teammates, then what did they do?

[Camron Rust]

That is a team technical foul.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That is a team technical foul.

Or a 5-second violation (9-10-1b)

And, I'd treat the division line the same as any other boundary line if the players tried to line up parallel to it and pass the ball on the BC side of the plane

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Or a 5-second violation (9-10-1b)

And, I'd treat the division line the same as any other boundary line if the players tried to line up parallel to it and pass the ball on the BC side of the plane

Yes, you could go that direction too. I think the difference is the locking of hands/arms that the T requires while the 5-second rule only requires enclosure. Once they lock arms, I think that would push the call to the T.

Now, if you want to get silly with such a play, what if the offensive players formed such circle then placed the ball on the floor in the middle of their circle. The ball would not be in player control so it would be harder to call that...I think the T would be the only recourse.

[bucky]

Why not, as a defender, just walk around it, into the BC, and take the ball (if on the floor)? I realize that it is not allowed but who cares? The ref will stop the game and the defense will get what they accomplished. Yes, they could then inbound in the BC and do the same thing but come on, these are 11 year olds. What kind of coach teaches this to 11 year olds? Yikes.

How could 4 11-year-old girls occupy the entire half circle perimeter without being in an illegal position. If feet are greater than should width apart, in order to accomplish this, call an illegal screen, lol. Or, if that far apart, crawl through the legs. When the defender collapses them, call a foul on her, lol.

I do believe that locking arms/hands is illegal.

I would use a T as an absolute last resort in a game involving 11 year olds.

[deecee]

the good ol ring of fire defense.