Question about a junior girls play

[sdoebler]

If the defense simply stood between the offense and the basket and the offensive team made contact it would be a moving screen. This is a really dumb play though.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by sdoebler

If the defense simply stood between the offense and the basket and the offensive team made contact it would be a moving screen. This is a really dumb play though.

Please, a rule citation for 'moving screen'?
Do you also call 'over-the-back' and 'reaching in'?

This is a public forum mainly populated by officials who know the proper terminology.

We would not want to adversely influence an inexperienced official or (God forbid) a fanboy if they should drop by.

Don't want to be seen as espousing 'fan speak'.

Originally Posted by justacoach

Please, a rule citation for 'moving screen'?
Do you also call 'over-the-back' and 'reaching in'?

This is a public forum mainly populated by officials who know the proper terminology.

We would not want to adversely influence an inexperienced official or (God forbid) a fanboy if they should drop by.

Don't want to be seen as espousing 'fan speak'.

'Moving screen' is fan speak now??

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by AremRed

'Moving screen' is fan speak now??

If it is used as justification for calling a foul or a violation by someone presenting themselves as an official.
Since you seem to be in the know about this term, maybe you can help me understand whether to call a foul or a violation.

[so cal lurker]

Sounds like a team party watching the Mighty Ducks or that soccer movie (Kicking and Screaming maybe?) in which essentially that play was used by the heroic underdogs, and tried to bring it to basketball. (I don't know about the hockey version, but the soccer version was illegal.)

Originally Posted by justacoach

If it is used as justification for calling a foul or a violation by someone presenting themselves as an official.
Since you seem to be in the know about this term, maybe you can help me understand whether to call a foul or a violation.

Despite your name I'm gonna pretend you are an official.

So if you are reffing and coach asked you "justacoach, wasn't that a moving screen there?" you're gonna respond "No such thing Coach" like an ashole? Got it.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Despite your name I'm gonna pretend you are an official.

So if you are reffing and coach asked you "justacoach, wasn't that a moving screen there?" you're gonna respond "No such thing Coach" like an ashole? Got it.

I can accept that term when it is used by an ignorant coach or fan but not by an official . My response would include the term illegal contact.

So far as ashole, you will be shocked that 2 officials I have trained, from birth, are currently working games where they have numbers on the back of their officiating jerseys. Pretend you could ever attain that level, you disrespectful dip$hit.

[sdoebler]

Originally Posted by justacoach

I can accept that term when it is used by an ignorant coach or fan but not by an official . My response would include the term illegal contact.

So far as ashole, you will be shocked that 2 officials I have trained, from birth, are currently working games where they have numbers on the back of their officiating jerseys. Pretend you could ever attain that level, you disrespectful dip$hit.

Classy

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

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So if you are reffing and coach asked you "justacoach, wasn't that a moving screen there?" you're gonna respond "No such thing Coach" like an ashole? Got it.

I'll say "A moving screen is only illegal if the screener creates contact."

If the coach is someone who has been chirping all night or has been an a-hole themself, I may say "No such thing Coach."

Like I said before, most of the time I hear it is when an offensive player is simply moving in the same direction as a defender.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I'll say "A moving screen is only illegal if the screener creates contact."

I also sometimes say "S/he tried to set an illegal screen, but missed." Mostly, imo, the coach wants to know that you were watching (and saw it) and will continue to watch for it.

[sdoebler]

Originally Posted by justacoach

Please, a rule citation for 'moving screen'?
Do you also call 'over-the-back' and 'reaching in'?

This is a public forum mainly populated by officials who know the proper terminology.

We would not want to adversely influence an inexperienced official or (God forbid) a fanboy if they should drop by.

Don't want to be seen as espousing 'fan speak'.

Yes I am an official and moving screen is proper terminology. If the ring of players moved forward into the defending players this would constitute illegal contact, pretty simple.

Also as stated with rule 4-24-9 by Billymac it is a technical as played.

Thanks for your public forum information.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by sdoebler

Yes I am an official and moving screen is proper terminology. If the ring of players moved forward into the defending players this would constituent illegal contact, pretty simple.

Also as stated with rule 4-24-9 by Billymac it is a technical as played.

Thanks for your public forum information.

No, "moving screen" is not proper terminology. It may be commonly used, but it doesn't communicate something that is illegal. The contact that comes in combination with SOME "moving screens" may be illegal, but a moving screen is often legal and even sometimes with contact. So, calling a "moving screen" implies the wrong thing just as "being set" does.

[sdoebler]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

No, "moving screen" is not proper terminology. It may be commonly used, but it doesn't communicate something that is illegal. The contact that comes in combination with SOME "moving screens" may be illegal, but a moving screen is often legal and even sometimes with contact. So, calling a "moving screen" implies the wrong thing just as "being set" does.

Section 35

Art. 4. No player, while moving, shall set a screen that causes contact and delays an opponent from reaching a desired position.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by sdoebler

Section 35

Art. 4. No player, while moving, shall set a screen that causes contact and delays an opponent from reaching a desired position.

Yes BUT, a player can set a screen while moving without creating the contact.

So not all moving screens are illegal.

[sdoebler]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Yes BUT, a player can set a screen while moving without creating the contact.

So not all moving screens are illegal.

K next time an evaluator says that you missed a moving screen just tell him there is no issue with that because it may not have been illegal.

Ill be sure to add illegal moving screen to my future statements since no one will have any idea what I am talking about if I just say moving screen.