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Old Sat Dec 23, 2017, 03:57am
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Coach interference during play

"Assistant coach gets tech in unusual sequence.Colorado assistant coach Kim English removes a water bottle from the court during play, gets hit in the head with the ball and receives a technical foul."

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Don't know what else can be done after the fact since he clearly interfered with play inbounds.

If an official is able to observe the water bottle get knocked onto the court and halt play before the coach interferes would a technical foul still be warranted or a bench warning? POI on the missed FT still has to be AP, which is annoying. Unfortunate situation to deal with.
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Old Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:57am
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Old Sat Dec 23, 2017, 02:28pm
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Interesting because the official was moving to pick up the bottle too. If the ball had hit the official would it have remained in play?
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Old Sat Dec 23, 2017, 02:37pm
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Rule 4-4-4: "A ball which touches ... an official is the same as the ball touching the floor at that individual’s location."
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Old Sat Dec 23, 2017, 03:19pm
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Everyone did the right thing in this situation. The coach did the right thing by trying to retrieve the bottle so no one would get injured. The officials did the right thing by charging the Class B and going to the arrow.

Unfortunate for the coach, but once it hit him, even though he had good intentions, it has to be addressed.

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Old Sat Dec 23, 2017, 03:56pm
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Also, who caused the water bottle to be out there? Have your items secured on your bench and nothing rolls onto the floor. He got in trouble, but that is his fault that he went out there. I have no issues with the administration of this T.

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Old Sat Dec 23, 2017, 04:41pm
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If the coach or the referee gets the water bottle off in time, then no harm, no foul. But since neither did -- it's a T.
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Interesting because the official was moving to pick up the bottle too. If the ball had hit the official would it have remained in play?
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Rule 4-4-4: "A ball which touches ... an official is the same as the ball touching the floor at that individual’s location."
Maybe not a T (although probably something still), but surely they are going to stop play if a water bottle rolls out there in the middle of players.
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I don't know about the rest if you, but it is my humble opinion that if I saw what the official saw I am putting air in the whistle instead of trying to get to the ball without stopping play.

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Old Sun Dec 24, 2017, 12:07am
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I don't know about the rest if you, but it is my humble opinion that if I saw what the official saw I am putting air in the whistle instead of trying to get to the ball without stopping play.

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And then you would have people complaining that he gave the ball to a certain team because no one was in possession. I can imagine all the comments or suggestions of that decision. I probably would have done the same thing as I have before, but usually, no one is hit with the ball.

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Old Sun Dec 24, 2017, 12:44pm
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I don't know about the rest if you, but it is my humble opinion that if I saw what the official saw I am putting air in the whistle instead of trying to get to the ball without stopping play.

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While that was my initial thought, too, the ref is moving to the bottle while the FT is stil in the air. What are the odds at that moment that he can’t kick grab the bottle or kick it off the court without interrupting the game? One in a hundred? I doubt he saw the ball/play coming his way in time to stop play before it hit the coach.
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And then you would have people complaining that he gave the ball to a certain team because no one was in possession. I can imagine all the comments or suggestions of that decision. I probably would have done the same thing as I have before, but usually, no one is hit with the ball.

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While that was my initial thought, too, the ref is moving to the bottle while the FT is stil in the air. What are the odds at that moment that he can’t kick grab the bottle or kick it off the court without interrupting the game? One in a hundred? I doubt he saw the ball/play coming his way in time to stop play before it hit the coach.


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"Assistant coach gets tech in unusual sequence.Colorado assistant coach Kim English removes a water bottle from the court during play, gets hit in the head with the ball and receives a technical foul."

ESPN video clip needed.

Don't know what else can be done after the fact since he clearly interfered with play inbounds.

If an official is able to observe the water bottle get knocked onto the court and halt play before the coach interferes would a technical foul still be warranted or a bench warning? POI on the missed FT still has to be AP, which is annoying. Unfortunate situation to deal with.
With good intentions from the coach, is this a Class B for "illegally standing" (1 shot) or Class A (2 shots)?
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